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[AMC] Breaking Bad - Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. TheresTheDagger

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    My memory on this is hazy and I could be wrong, but as I recall, the woman in the partnership was Walt's romantic interest at the time and she chose the other guy.
     
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    Don't think so, but if I'm not mistaken they hinted at a personal rift. A love triangle, I'm guessing, that didn't go Walt's way.
     
  3. Cannonball

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    It's been suggested that Walt was having an affair with Gretchen. Remember the flashback from season 1 when it looked like there was "Chemistry" between the two.

    EDIT: You know, that IS kind of a loose end. Why Walt actually left. What the personal matter was. Vince Gilligan has said that all loose ends will be tied up and they just reintroduced the Schwartz's back into the story. It could be that Walt does pay them a visit where they reveal these things and that's when he slips the ricin into their coffee.
     
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    WOW what a boring episode but I'm sure it they are just trying to build it up for an epic finale.
     
  5. mtbrays

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    I like the ricin-for-Schwartz theory. The poison is too slow acting to be used on himself or Jesse. The only other person I can see him using it on is Lydia - she does consume a lot of Stevia.

    This is a good end-game. I was shocked to see them on television, but it all makes so much sense. Walt's hubris can't handle people claiming credit for the things he's accomplished. Right now, the Schwartz family and Nazis are doing that.

    I will predict that Jesse somehow kills Todd. The hatred he has for him is visceral and he will somehow get revenge for Andrea and Drew Sharp. If Jesse survives, I hope he takes in Brock. That's a big "if," though.

    Kind of anti-climactic to know that the house was desecrated because it was a local landmark. Although, that's better than it being to work of the Nazis after I felt they were on the edge of killing Skyler and Holly.

    Ultimately, I hope the series ends with a hint of Huell living on a Mexican beach.
     
  6. Zboy

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    But you still watched just like you still banged.
     
  7. Freik

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    I was expecting more from this episode, considering it was the second to the last, but they did a good job of closing the gap on his 51st bday to his 52nd.

    It seemed to me that he was more upset about the old partners talking **** than the fact that his product is still on the market. As far as the public knows hes still the manufacturer so it really shouldn't impact his ego as much as grey matter. Now him knowing the stuff is being cooked by Jesse instead of him, and the fact hat the Nazi's didnt follow thru on their words is more than enough for him to go after them.

    I just hope the ricin isnt for himself, that would really be a cop out, why would he need to go back to his own house to get that to kill himself instead of the infinite other ways he could end his own life if he wanted to.
     
  8. cardpire

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    Posts like this annoy the holy hell out of me. You are presenting this from the standpoint of somebody who knew or expected them to resurface is the final 2 episodes.

    Were you also one of the dozens of posters teaching us when that conversation between Saul and Walt that you heard in last week's previews took place in the timeline?
     
  9. TheresTheDagger

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    You don't care. Great. That's nice for you.

    There is nothing "new" about the Schwartz's. They are as old as the series is long since they were introduced in season 1. As others have mentioned before, they represent the entire reason he started cooking crystal meth in the first place.

    Apparently the writers disagree with just about everything you care/don't care about concerning this. The ONLY thing that happened between Walt deciding to give up to the authorities and his changing his mind about that was that national television interview he watched at the bar.

    Of course we are talking fan fiction here, (which I didn't write by the way) but tell me....why exactly do you think Gilligan stuck that in the end of the 2nd to last show for?

    I'm really curious?
     
  10. YourSecretLover

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    Starts with Grey Matter. Ends with Grey Matter. Brilliant ending. Love the way how everybody is involved in these last episodes.
     
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    They were around for one-two episodes 5 years ago. Making them the spur of Walt's ire now would be stupid.
     
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  12. Cannonball

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    I don't think Walt can necessarily surmise that the existence of the blue meth means Jesse is still alive. He handed the reigns of the operation over to Jack and Todd. Even though they couldn't get the purity level up, they added artificial color to it. Simply saying that blue meth still exists shouldn't be shocking to him. At most, he might wonder why they're still cooking when they took $70M of his money. But if they're still cooking, it still doesn't mean that Jesse is doing the work.

    Now, if they'd reported that the purity level was still very high (not sure why they would, considering nobody knows somebody else is cooking and probably assume it's still Heisenberg) then that might set off some red flags. But I don't think Walt can assume Jesse is alive and probably believes him to be dead at this point.
     
  13. TheresTheDagger

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    What is there to argue here? Gilligan put them back in the show tonight.

    Take it up with him. LOL.
     
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    Thank you, sir. Repping the ever-loving **** out of you.
     
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    Not rly. He just used them as a plot device to give Walt his motivation, but Walt's motivation is not revenge on the the Schwartz. Walt's motivation is something along the lines of owning his legacy.
     
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    Er ... what?

    I think you're "annoyed" because you simply forgot how important Grey Matter was to Walt. That's on you, dude. Don't blame others for explaining it, and don't blame the writers for choosing not to forget about the company worth billions that could have been Walt's.
     
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  17. cardpire

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    Huh???

    Don't you mean "who cares what he thinks" and "what show is he watching"??
     
  18. cardpire

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    Yes, yes, that's why I'm annoyed. Being unable to predict 99% of the things that happened throughout the course of this series didn't annoy me, but this one got me!

    Oh, and a congrats to you as well for knowing that Grey Matter would resurface within the final 61 minutes of the series.
     
  19. Cannonball

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    Gretchen played a role in Season 2. Walt pretended that he got money for is treatment from the Schartz's. Gretchen found out and confronted Walt about it and eventually reveals to Skylar that they never gave Walt any money which is what makes Skylar and the kids move out.

    They revisit Walt's involvement in the company in season 5A when they basically reveal that the reason Walt keeps cooking meth well after he's made the money he set out to make is because he cashed out of a billion dollar company way too soon and this was his 2nd chance to build his own empire.

    In that one scene (which was still this season technically), they made Gray Matter a huge source of motivation for Walt's actions.
     
  20. TheresTheDagger

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    I still don't understand why you are arguing with me.

    That Gilligan put them back in the show tonight when he did speaks volumes about their importance to the final episode. He could have come up with any number of reasons to bring Walt back to ABQ for the last show.

    He chose THIS reason.

    If you think that's means nothing in a show where every little nuance means something then I don't know what to else to say.
     

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