UT Football Thread

mrdave543 · Sep 16, 2013

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Just so everyone is clear, it happened early Saturday morning...well before the game. That, in no way makes it better. Just pointing out that it was not in retaliation for the loss. Just some idiot thug and a kid in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I agree with updawg. 6th Street has taken a turn for the worse. Seems that it's focused more on shot bars and dance clubs...and a lot less on the live music that made it famous. It's changed who goes there. I don't go unless I'm going for a specific show or have customers in town that really want to check it out.
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Glad the article got updated to reflect when it occurred, but I didn't think it was necessarily connected to the outcome of the game. It is sad how bad that part of 6th street has gotten in just the past few years.

percicles · Sep 16, 2013

The Humidor newsletter taken from shaggy message boards. Kinda reads like fan fiction.

Deloss Dodds and Retirement

Say what you will about the man but he’s turned the University of Texas Athletic Department into a money making machine and one of the most popular properties/brands in all of sports. Has Deloss made mistakes along the way, sure, but no one can deny the financial gains he’s brought to the University of Texas. I’m not going to get into his mistakes here because they’re obvious and what’s done is done. For our purposes the only relevant item is Deloss Dodds’ retirement because it’s the absolute most important component to getting the University of Texas football program back to prominence.

To that point and make no mistake, Deloss Dodds has already retired effective 12/31/2013 as we reported last week. This is a done deal despite what some have reported to the contrary. There are other unfortunate reasons that make this an absolute certainty but we won’t get into that here because it’s not appropriate. Just wish the man well and thank him for all of the good he’s brought to the school.

An interesting aside to all of this is Dodds’ announcement that he’s retiring. A source close to the situation tells us that Dodds’ is waiting for the Bev Kearney EEOC investigation and subsequent private lawsuit to show its cards before announcing he’s stepping down. Why? Because it gives the University of Texas cover in the form of showing a change in direction at the highest level of the athletic department if that strategy is needed. It’s also one of the reasons Bellmont and those who message for Bellmont were so aggressively denying our report and Chip Brown’s follow-up report.

If you’re handicapping the timing of the announcement look for the first couple of weeks of October as the Kearney allegations of sexual impropriety and misconduct in the AD start to get leaked. Don’t be surprised if a head coach, a former head coach, and one the highest ranking positions of the AD get name dropped in this deal.

Deloss’ Exit Strategy And Mack Brown

Deloss’ retirement announcement not only serves as a powerful counter to any Kearney allegations, but it also gives Mack Brown a reason to retire. Deloss’ announcement will be a sentimental event and Mack Brown will be able to hang it up without many hardball questions from the media as a result. Oh, and if you’re asking, yes, we’re told Mack Brown will step down at the end of the season which is certainly the most important bit of information to our readers—we just wanted you to know the mechanics of this deal. The only question is when the announcement will be made and how much input Mack is going to have into the new coaching search, but we’ll have more on that later. For now, let’s get to Saturday night’s debacle and the legion of examples of why the program is in the hole it is today.

Mack Lost the Coaches.

Reason number 1 is accountability. There isn’t a whole lot and that exclamation point was pounded into the coaches’ minds when Manny Diaz was retained in 2013 after it was evident things weren’t working out. Remember our report last season when sources told us Bo Davis and Duane Akina basically started taking over coaching responsibilities as sort of a collective defensive coordinator and that helped improve the play of that side of the ball. A healthier program would have moved another direction after this chain of events but Mack Brown still brought Manny Diaz back to keep up appearances that Texas was stable after the other coordinator Bryan Harsin had bolted. Sources tell us that Mack Brown did not want to explain to his bosses why he was replacing two coordinators in the same season especially when he was telling everyone, “We’re fixin’ to be good again.”

Fast forward from last season to last week. Sources close to the staff tell us that both Bo Davis and Duane Akina were furious when Mack fired Diaz two games into the year because they knew this was something that should have been done last spring. We’re told that Bo Davis is coaching hard and keeping his head down, but he is still disgruntled. Duane Akina is different story, however. In the Sunday coaches meeting things got heated again between Akina and the head man. We’re told that Duane Akina told Mack to fire him if he did not like the job he was doing once again laying blame at the head coach’s feet for having a soft team that is coddled way too much.

Probably the most bizarre situation on Saturday was the demeanor of Bruce Chambers who’s usually much more quiet and reserved on game days. A team source says that Chambers seemed to have a chip on his shoulder especially when taking orders from other coaches on the staff on the offensive side of the ball including Mack Brown. “He was definitely no himself,” the source claimed. “He acted like he just didn’t give a damn and that’s not Bruce. He typically just quietly goes about his business but Saturday night he was yelling back at coaches and outwardly defiant at times.”

It leaves you to wonder if someone has told Chambers something about his future or if he’s been given his notice to start looking for work. If you remember 2010, this happened in the months of October and November with various coaches being told they needed to find a soft landing or they were going to be fired--the results were a disastrous 5-7 record that culminated in the staff opening up a big giant “can of quit” in the last game. In the week leading up to the finale against TAMU, sources claim Major Applewhite was the only one coaching in practice on the offensive side of the ball while guys like Kennedy, Davis, and Macwhorter did nothing knowing they were already toast. This could be the beginning of a similar situation according to our source.

Another item of discord, especially considering the dreadful offensive adjustments made in the second halves of the last two games, is play-calling disputes. We’re told that Major Applewhite evidently continues to overrule Darryl Wyatt on play-calls and this has created a schism in the offensive staff. In back to back weeks, half time adjustments weren’t forth coming and some feel Applewhite needs to take Wyatt’s advice to heart more often because Wyatt seems to have a better feel for what levers to pull at various points during the game. Remember Wyatt was a play caller at Kansas and had significant offensive input at OU.

In fact, we’re told that Bryan Harsin was more apt to take Wyatt’s input to heart and it resulted in a pretty high success rate in the form of big plays last season. According to one source, “Major may be trying too hard to be the man. He keeps blowing off input from Coach Wyatt. He needs to lean on his staff.”

It will be interesting to see if Wyatt gets more in-game input as the season wears on. Keep in mind, these guys are coaching for jobs after this season so they won’t take kindly to going to down with the ship without input knowing their careers are being damaged.

Schemes Are Easy

We spoke with a source with ties to Ole Miss who was on the sidelines during the game. Here’s what we were told. Ole Miss coaches were shocked at Case’s lack of arm strength and made significant adjustments at half time which resulted in a shut out after the second quarter. They had prepared for David Ash all week so they were caught off guard by Case and took a while to adjust according to the source. “Once they realized Texas couldn’t challenge them down field they blitzed the power looks and shut down the running game. They were surprised that Texas was starting a guy that couldn’t challenge outside the hashes because of lack of arm strength. In terms of big games, they said it was the easiest game they’ve ever had to coach. They were laughing on the side lines.”

Player Led Team

We’re told that the players called a players only meeting after the BYU game and only part of the team showed up. To make matters worse, the players that did get up to say something weren’t all that convincing. According to a player, “I don’t think any of the guys believed what they were saying when they stood up. This team doesn’t seem to have any direction. It’s embarrassing.”

So Where Do We Go From Here?

On the coaching front we reported that Shaw and Saban were the names we were hearing at this time which is still early in the process. Obviously things can change and it turns out they have in the last week. One of our best sources thinks that David Shaw and Bowlsby are just a smoke screen to placate Mack Brown. Mack has an approved list of coaches to replace him and those would include Shaw, Fedora, and Boise State’s Chris Petersen. A name like Nick Saban would definitely not sit well with Mack Brown and Mack has pretty much said as much.

If you recall, we reported last spring that a handful of Dallas Big Cigars (one of which hunts with Saban) had worked out a tentative deal to bring Saban to Austin with the proviso that Mack Brown would announce his retirement. Mack had discussed retiring a handful of times in the last few years so this group thought they could talk Brown into doing what was best for the program. Right or wrong, they set up a lunch meeting to make the pitch to Mack so the program to take the next step. I’m not sure that’s the way I would have handled things and I would expect Brown to be royally pissed but these gentlemen are captains of industry and figured they’d roll the dice. Much to their chagrin, the lunch meeting went horribly bad and Mack was angry and defiant which tells you how he would feel about Saban taking over.

So what’s the point? How does Shaw figure into the story?

The Big Cigar tells us that Shaw is going to be pitched to gauge his interest in the Texas job and it’s highly unlikely the Stanford man will leave his alma mater to come to Texas. In other words, our source claims the Shaw and Bowlsby duo may be something that’s being floated as a smoke screen. Nick Saban is actually the only other name we heard this weekend as a serious candidate which was surprising. In other words, we feel Saban is the first choice of large faction of power brokers at UT.

New Athletic Director Tidbits

Oliver Luck’s name is back on the tongues of some of the most influential folks at UT. They’re willing to overlook the financial issues at West Virginia because Texas is a different animal I’m told. Luck’s polish and presence along with his home-state ties have put him back on the radar with guys with their names on buildings at UT along with President Powers. It will be interesting to watch as Powers will have the final say.

Sundays Meeting—Does Mack Announce Today?

Prior to workouts on Sunday, our source indicates there was yet another meeting with Powers, Dodds, and Mack Brown as well as a group other folks that my source could not identify. Is it a meeting to change the drapes in Moncrief-Neuhaus or to negotiate Mack Brown’s retirement—our source was unclear. “It was certainly out of the ordinary, but I haven’t heard he’s going to announce retirement in Monday’s press conference. I will say this, President Powers is not happy one bit and wasn’t there show support on Sunday. As for the other suits, I’m not sure who they were.”

I guess we’ll have to stay tuned for the 11 o’clock presser but my sources indicate Deloss would have to retire first before Mack would step down so I doubt it happens today. Regardless, changes are afoot, it’s just a matter of timing at this point. Then let the Athletic Director and Coaching searches commence.

Hook ‘Em
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RocketFan007 · Sep 16, 2013

percicles said: ↑

The Humidor newsletter taken from Texas message boards.
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I'm pretty sure it's highly frowned upon to be posting stuff from the Insider boards...

percicles · Sep 16, 2013

RocketFan007 said: ↑

I'm pretty sure it's highly frowned upon to be posting stuff from the Insider boards...
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It was posted on Shaggy via another board via another board. Blame shaggy.

Rocketman95 · Sep 16, 2013

percicles said: ↑

It was posted on Shaggy via another board via another board. Blame shaggy.
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"Wasn't me." - Shaggy

bigtexxx · Sep 16, 2013

lmao SHAMBLES

Why Mack has been allowed to stay is beyond me

Thefabman · Sep 16, 2013

percicles said: ↑

The Humidor newsletter taken from shaggy message boards. Kinda reads like fan fiction.
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I hope all of this is true.

LonghornFan · Sep 17, 2013

Thefabman said: ↑

I hope all of this is true.
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+Elventeenthousand.

percicles · Sep 17, 2013

Receipts on the ineptness of butterteef.

J.R. · Sep 17, 2013

Mack Brown apologizes for 66-17 loss to OU next month

Cold Hard · Sep 17, 2013

percicles said: ↑

The Humidor newsletter taken from shaggy message boards. Kinda reads like fan fiction.
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All I took from all that is that Texas needs to clean house from top to bottom...the AD, football, men's basketball and baseball programs.

Rip Van Rocket · Sep 17, 2013

Bo Pelini may be available soon.

Ziggy · Sep 17, 2013

Rip Van Rocket said: ↑

Bo Pelini may be available soon.
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You don't want that crazy mofo coaching your team. As defensive coordinator you mean? I cant imagine any recruits wanting to go play for that nut job.

On the other hand, I do think Nebraska would be a great landing spot for Mack Brown if he felt like he still had something to prove.

Ziggy · Sep 17, 2013

How can I get in contact with the people behind, http://www.thanksmack.com? I like the site, I like the infographics. I want to hire them. How?

geeimsobored · Sep 17, 2013

Ziggy said: ↑

How can I get in contact with the people behind, http://www.thanksmack.com? I like the site, I like the infographics. I want to hire them. How?
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They seem to have a twitter account and a facebook page that are both linked on the website. Try those.

Ziggy · Sep 17, 2013

geeimsobored said: ↑

They seem to have a twitter account and a facebook page that are both linked on the website. Try those.
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I hate running around social media man, but I'll see what they say on Twitter. Sigh.

geeimsobored · Sep 17, 2013

Ziggy said: ↑

I hate running around social media man, but I'll see what they say on Twitter. Sigh.
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Oh I agree 100%. I dont have a twitter account either. But that's the reality of the internet today.

BE4RD · Sep 17, 2013

Time to revive this old chestnut.

Somebody call the new owner.

leroy · Sep 17, 2013

Ziggy said: ↑

You don't want that crazy mofo coaching your team. As defensive coordinator you mean? I cant imagine any recruits wanting to go play for that nut job.

On the other hand, I do think Nebraska would be a great landing spot for Mack Brown if he felt like he still had something to prove.
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Disagree. Think it's loud in Austin when things aren't going right? At least we have something else going on in our lives, living in one of the best cities around. Nebraskans have nothing else except Cornhusker football. Nothing. It would be unrelenting pressure on Mack. They fired Frank Solich for going 10-3. Mack wouldn't last 2 seasons there.

solid · Sep 17, 2013

leroy said: ↑

Disagree. Think it's loud in Austin when things aren't going right? At least we have something else going on in our lives, living in one of the best cities around. Nebraskans have nothing else except Cornhusker football. Nothing. It would be unrelenting pressure on Mack. They fired Frank Solich for going 10-3. Mack wouldn't last 2 seasons there.
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Kind of dark humor. Yeah, what is there to do in Nebraska? Watch the corn grow? Run from tornados that get lost in Oklahoma and head north?

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