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Houston: METRO wants your help reimagining your transit system!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by da1, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

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    GPS tracking for buses on the Metro phone app. That way you know when they are running late or aren't going to show up at all.
     
  2. da1

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    I just quoted the article. That's not me. It's a very respected transportation consultant actually.
     
  3. da1

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    The biggest cost is the cost of acquiring land, which goes up over time.

    The bottom line is at some point we will come to a point of absolute gridlock, so it's better to be proactive and build the system now.

    Now please give me such REASON and LOGIC texx.
     
  4. Haymitch

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    He just doesn't know how to use the quote feature. Check the link.

    Missed this...
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    There's no way we'll come to a point of absolute gridlock. We're nowhere close to that now. People would move out of the burbs into Houston proper long before reaching absolute gridlock.

    You're just dreaming up excuses to fund your expensive, unnecessary rail because you're a rail fanboy. For some reason in your head, you think rail is futuristic and cool, so you will defend it at all costs. Unfortunately it's not needed in Houston. Buses and cars are better solutions for us.
     
  6. da1

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    You're wrong. The population will double soon. Our public transit sucks. Traffic is already bad but will only get worse. Freeway expansion only helps for a few years and then the traffic fills up those lanes too.

    I'm not some fanboy, countries all around the world are investing billions in rail. Malaysia, Laos, India, Turkey, England, China, Japan, the list goes on and on. But in your stubborn, thick head you think Houston is somehow so different that it's not necessary here.

    Or maybe you're just afraid of blacks which is more likely.

    Still waiting for REASON and LOGIC.
     
  7. da1

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    After a brief hiatus, the big bus is making a comeback on Houston streets later this month.



    Metropolitan Transit Authority will soon roll out the first seven of 70 articulated buses, said Andy Skabowski, Metro's vice president of operations. The 62-foot buses can carry 59 passengers, 22 more than the conventional 40-foot model.



    "It is a good, new bus that is reliable and going to move more people," Skabowski said.



    Drivers started training Monday on the buses, said Tom Andree, manager of Metro's maintenance and operations facility off Hiram Clarke Drive.



    Each of the new buses costs $677,000, according to the contract board members approved in August 2012. The 70 larger buses are expected to replace roughly 100 conventional buses.



    On lines like Route 163 on Fondren in southwest Houston and Route 2 along Bellaire, Metro can handle growing demand without using more buses. During weekday commutes especially, the buses can be very crowded, Metro spokeswoman Margaret O'Brien-Molina said.



    Riders waiting Monday morning agreed, noting that sometimes buses are so crowded they must wait for another.



    "I can't be standing there with an armload of groceries," Minh Nguyen said as she waited for the next bus near Bellaire and Hillcroft.



    The Fondren and Bellaire lines are Metro's most used, according to the most recent ridership report. Nearly 8,000 people hop aboard Route 163 buses each workday, based on figures for the October-to-June 2013 period. Along Route 2, daily weekday ridership averaged 7,766 during the nine-month span.



    Both are also among the top five routes on Saturdays and Sundays.



    The articulated buses can travel most of the same places the conventional buses can, Ska-bowski said.



    "They actually have a better turning radius than a 40-footer, but you've got to know how to handle it," he said.



    The new buses can't, however, handle every challenge Houston has to offer. Along Westheimer in the Midtown and Montrose areas, for example, it would be too tough to navigate a 60-foot bus.



    "It's not going to work everywhere," Skabowski said.



    Metro last used articulated buses in 2011, after it decommissioned the last of its bigger buses and focused on a fleet of 40-foot buses for the sake of efficiency. In the past year, however, the agency has shifted back to running various sizes of buses.



    Forty smaller 15-passenger buses debuted on 13 routes in March, after Metro officials decided the routes didn't warrant a conventional bus but still needed service. The smaller, gasoline-powered buses reduce fuel costs because they are more efficient than the larger diesel fleet.



    Over the next three fiscal years, officials plan to buy 360 buses to replace aging coaches as part of a larger plan to phase buses out as they reach the end of their 12 years of use. Metro will also transition gradually to a compressed natural gas fleet. Plans call for the first 40 conventional-size natural gas buses to arrive next year.

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...r-buses-to-handle-its-4803563.php?cmpid=btfpm
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    You're comparing Houston to a dense, overpopulated third world country like India?

    and our population will double "soon"? We're around 6M now, so you're predicting we'll be at 12M "soon"?

    I'm not impressed by your logic. You're trying to create some kind of panic scenario when it doesn't exist.
     
  9. Yonkers

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    The wheels on the troll bus go round and round.
     
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  10. Air Langhi

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    It actually does that for many of the buses. The app is crap because it is slow and crashes, but it does give you real time data and of the testing I did it was pretty accurate.
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    WOW I missed this gem.

    I have no words for this idiocy. First off I'm not afraid of blacks. Secondly, I didn't realize they were the driving force behind rail.

    You need to step away from the keyboard, collect your thoughts, and regroup. You're out of control.
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    da1 -- is this your wet dream? Fully utilized rails like this one?

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  13. da1

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    Houston's population is expected to double in the next 10-15 years. Tell me what happens when millions more hop on the roads. What will happen?

    Again would you rather be proactive or wait for stuff to hit the fan?

    Come on Texx waiting for your LOGIC and REASON.
     
  14. da1

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    Not surprised.
     
  15. ItsMyFault

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    Have any sort of data behind it doubling in only 10-15 years, regardless of whether you mean city population or CSA? Really interested to see this.
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

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    It works for my local bus, but I would like to have a map with the actual location of the next bus instead of just it's arrival time. Most of the time, those arrival times aren't very accurate unless the bus is running right on schedule - which is rare for the 18. :)
     
  17. da1

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    I take the 18 sometimes, it's never ever on time.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    bwaaahahahaha.

    From 2000 to 2010, Houston's population grew by 7.5%. So roughly 0.75% each year. Houston's metro area right now is about 6 million people. At 0.75% per year, the metro area will double in roughly 90 years.

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  19. da1

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    It's grown by 65% since 1990.
     
  20. Rip Van Rocket

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    This is interesting. I also would like to know where you got this figure. Did this come from a study, or is this just your opinion.
     

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