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[AMC] Breaking Bad - Season 5

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. RedDynasty

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    OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WALT WHITE!
     
  2. CCorn

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    This is the episode where you see how everyone's truly Breaking Bad. First, Skylar implies that Jesse should be killed- hello, Lady Macbeth! Then, Marie fantasizes poisoning Walt. Then, Hank basically is willing to set up Jesse for the kill to get Walt. And Walt- well, he's out to get Jesse now for real. Jesse's the only one of the 5 principals who's breaking...good?
     
  4. RedDynasty

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    Wow, wonderful post and very true.

    I was thinking earlier, "wow, what an ******* Jessie has become!"

    But now I realize something - Jessie may be the one to root for.

    Yet even still, I can't stop rooting for Walt.

    God, this show is making my head spin!
     
  5. dandorotik

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    Yes, until you realize that Jessie shot Gale and was continually gung-ho about getting back into the meth business. You see, it's exceedingly hard to basically root for anyone on this show- and that's the whole point. I thought they would set up Hank to be the "good guy" who triumphs over evil- well, so much for that. It'd be easier to do it that way, but the overriding theme of this show is that, given the circumstances, anyone (or almost anyone) could become bad. The whole premise of turning Mr. Chips into Scarface- well, who woulda thunk it would now apply to almost anyone?

    And that's why it's one of the great shows of our time- really, a modern-day Shakespearean tragedy- everyone has their fatal flaw.
     
  6. RedDynasty

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    Exactly.
    That's what makes this show amazing.
     
  7. Zboy

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    Jesse is an idiot and needs to go.

    Walt has saved his ass countless times. Even when Saul and Skylar asked Walt to kill Jesse, Walt didnt go with them. He cares about him and HAD to do the things he did. Jesse on the other hand has been messing things up and Walt has had to clean up his mess.

    Now he has threatened Walt and his family and has left Walt with no choice.

    BTW, that random guy in all black beside Walt thing was weak.
     
  8. johnnybravo

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    Marie telling her psychiatrist about spending time online searching for poisons... the ricin... food for thought.
     
  9. JayZ750

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    Hank is only breaking bad in the sense that he's not doing everything 100% by the book. Was he indifferent about what might happen to Jesse? Sure... But I wouldn't call that breaking bad. It is just being prudent. Especially when you consider he was right. He might not have known it, but he felt strongly that Walt truly was connected to Jesse and was willing to take that risk. Actual cops have done much dumber things with CIs
     
  10. dandorotik

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    Hank OK with someone dying just to address his monomaniacal need to get Walt? Umm, yeah, that's bad.
     
  11. dandorotik

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    A few parting thoughts:

    1. Maybe Walt is hiring Todd's uncle to kidnap Jessie so that he can talk to him in a controlled environment, rather than killing Jessie. Or, is Hank the one who Todd's gang will take out or kidnap?

    2. I'm wondering about that picture of Walt in a Santa Claus outfit that Jessie was looking at in Hank's house. Was that what gave Jessie ideas about getting him "where he lives?" Was it that Skylar was in the picture? They've never shown any holidays on this show except for birthdays, so it can't be a flashback to something that happened during Christmas. But maybe it's something about a gift. A gift of money he gave someone? The watch he gave Jessie? Maybe it's nothing. But I gotta believe it's something - otherwise, why a Christmas picture?
     
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    he's a devil in santa claus clothing
     
  13. rocketsfeeva

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    Only a month left of episodes. I'm getting sadder each week knowing it's ending.
     
  14. Cannonball

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    **** hits the fan. Marie follows through on her fantasies. Tries to poison Walt, accidentally poisons Skyler (or Jr.) instead. Walt gets his revenge in the finale by slipping her the Ricin.
     
  15. Cannonball

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    Walt's not concerned with Hank at the moment. Walt doesn't know he's gotten to Jesse. Walt made the call to Todd after Jesse called Walt. It's definitely about Jesse. If it was just kidnapping, he'd probably get Huell and Kuby to do it. That's within they're boundries (they pretty much held Ted Beneke hostage). But they're not murderers. Todd and his uncle are. If Walt's calling them instead of Saul/Huell/Kuby, it means that he now believes Jesse really is a threat to his life and has decided to take him out.

    Jesse gave Walt the watch.
     
  16. Rox11

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    Jessie should have just talked to walt, had walt even brought somebody with him. They are in the wide open and nothing could have taken place, even if it did they would have it on camera.
    Yup i am still rooting for Walter.
     
  17. Cannonball

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    I think the point was that he's so scared of Walt that he doesn't even feel safe in a wide open space like that with the DEA watching everything.
     
  18. Rox11

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    Yea, you could see how even hank has started to think like walt. He led jessie and gomie to believe he was naive enough to think that jessie would talk to walt and nothing would happen. He wanted exactly what jessie was guessing to happen. 2 birds with one stone for hank. For once hank is playing walt in a few steps ahead of him.
     
  19. rhino17

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    I've been rooting against Walt for 3 seasons now. He is a horrible person. I'm def on team Jesse
     
  20. Commodore

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    Disagree

    In Hank's mind, Jesse is an awful person and Hank has no qualms putting him at risk since that is the price he pays for getting a reduced sentence. Hank's not really wrong about that.

    Despite his crudeness, Hank is basically a white hat character that should be the one we root for. Walt has gone from white hat to all black hat. Jesse is gray hat.

    One thing, the murder of Gale did not seem to come up in Jesse's confession.

    Jesse bailing out at the end was perfectly believable. He's already rightfully super paranoid. And it seems like he had the epiphany of the plan to catch Walt in that moment, so that was the reason he bailed rather than the scary looking guy.

    I'm just glad the other characters are no longer in emotional reactive mode with Walt always a step ahead. Now the tables are reversed somewhat. Harkens back to season 4 when Gus was always outsmarting Walt until the end.
     

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