The combination of Ilyasova's defense, rebounding, and shooting is much better value than Anderson's shooting. Ilyasova is every bit as good a shooter as Ryan Anderson is provided for the touches either one of them would get here. And he's a better defender, rebounder, and finisher than Anderson.
It still has nothing to do with my post. I was replying to a post that claimed that Ilyasova is a much better shooter than other PF options. You are talking about something else entirely. Reading your replies, it sounds like I was saying that Ilyasova can't shoot or something. I think you probably just wanted to talk about Ilyasova's fit vs. Anderson's fit and you replied to my post, since I mentioned them, which is fair enough. But tbh, I don't think I care about that discussion because I just don't think we know that answer. It depends on Ilyasova's adjustment. The long 2 out of pick and pop is a major part of Ilyasova's game right now, and the Rockets are alergic to it, so we'd just have to see what happens. Ilyasova might become a 3-and-rim scorer, which is intriguing. Or he might start to play more Anderson-like, spotting up at 3. Or maybe he will be the same player that he is, in which case I'd prefer Anderson for the Rockets. Anyway, either of them would be a major boost for the Rockets right now.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lhkwtju Perhaps a pick or two could be sent to Milwaukee.. what do you guys think?
That's a very interesting idea. Washington would have to send something legit to Milwaukee to make this work. My question would be if the Wizards wouldn't just take Ilyasova. They were very vocal about looking for a stretch 4. Nene/Okafor are still serviceable centers (and they'd get Ekpe Udoh in your deal too, for defense). They might prefer to just deal with the Bucks and get Ilyasova.
This is a large sample size. Either the shot goes in or it doesn't. And Ilyasova's shot goes in far more frequently than other PF options. And this was for a team that was poorly coached, poorly assembled, and without a dominant center. He would get even better looks playing with legit All-NBA players like James Harden and Dwight Howard, in a system that is creating wide open looks for its three point shooters. If/when the Rockets acquire Ilyasova, and he is shooting the lights out, rebounding well, and not making needless mistakes (turnovers, forced shots), all of the naysayers change their tune.
Why wouldnt you just trade Omer for Illyasova if thats what you wanted in return? You just complicated everything, we lose Donatas and possible picks? For what? There is no way Milwaukee does that deal. You honestly think the most you can get for Omer is Trevor Ariza? WTF is wrong with you?
Ilyasova's looks from 3 actually tended to be very good. He only took a few of them a game, and those that he did were generally wide open. If anything, it's the opposite. Ryan Anderson was a more important offensive option for the Pelicans, and had to create for himself more. Give Anderson the same looks as Ilyasova was getting, %s will change. Anyway, no, i don't agree with your first sentences. Volume is a major factor. If you take a bunch of 3s, you are defended one way. If you are more prone to take long 2s or roll to the basket and take just a few 3s a game (like Ilyasova), you are defended differently. For an extreme example, look at Klay Thompson and Tayshaun Prince. Prince has a slightly higher 3pt %. Who's a better 3pt shooter? Of course Klay Thompson. Ilyasova is a good 3pt shooter. But saying that he's much better than those other guys like Anderson, Novak, etc.. I just don't agree with that at all. Heck, if you are going to judge purely by %s, Ilyasova is better than Steph Curry too. But he's just not. Situation and volume is a major factor.
Can you read? I'm beginning to think not. Ariza would go to Milwaukee in my trade proposal. And yes, a pick from Washington would go to Milwaukee.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n2mz72u Because it's still not football season and I'm bored- Rockets IN -Ty Lawson, Brandon Bass, Courtney Lee Rockets OUT -Asik,Lin,Motiejunas,Canaan Nuggets IN -Rondo, J. Crawford, Motie, Canaan Nuggets OUT -Lawson, Gallinari Celtics IN -Asik, Lin, Gallinari Celtics OUT -Rondo, Bass, Lee, Crawford IMO, this trade would give the Rockets 3 players that would fit well with Dwight. Bass and Lee had success playing with Dwight in Orlando and are both solid veterans worthy of serious minutes. Ty Lawson is the enigma of this trade, I THINK he'd do really well next to Harden on offense. He hit over 40% of his 3s his first two seasons before he was asked to play a larger role on offense the last two years. Never was a great defender but he's insanely quick and can run one hell of a fast break. All in all, I think he would be a big upgrade over Lin. The Celtics would do this because I doubt they find a better package for Rondo. They get a defensive anchor in Asik, filling a huge hole in their roster. Lin would be able to actually run the offense like he did when he first excelled in NY and could recapture some of that magic. Gallinari is coming off of a torn ACL but should come back strong and be a top 15 SF. The Nuggets do this trade because they're getting Rajon Rondo, a bona-fide superstar and by far the best player being traded. They'll have trouble giving up Lawson & Gallinari after a great season last year, but with Iggy, Ujiri, and Karl all gone it's probably time to go in a different direction. In the end I think they'd pull the trigger just to be able to watch Rondo toss up lobs to McGee and Faried all season.
Too complicated, make it easy on yourself and think less complex. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=m6vnazq Would they go for it? Add a pick or two if needed.....
I like it, although I doubt that Danny Ainge is going to trade Rondo. I think he's going to build around Rondo, like he did around Pierce in the past. Maybe he trades Rondo if there's a Godfather offer that's just impossible to refuse. But Asik and Gallo isn't that type of an offer. But it's a good trade idea overall, I like it. It depends on Ainge's plans re Rondo. Are they going to start Lowry-Lin-DeRozan-Valanciunas-Asik?
I agree that Ainge is probably going to stick with Rondo, but you never know. He's a guy that you always hear rumors about. Bad teammate, disrespectful to the staff, kind of a dick- He's one of the rare superstars I could see being moved. The Celtics are about to have a bad season whether Rondo comes back or not. The roster just doesn't make any sense. Brandon Bass and Courtney Lee have no place on a team trying to rebuild and Gerald Wallace is just going to rot away on that roster. Blow it up already! Plus you know Boston would love to trot out that Asik, Humphries & Gallinari combo.
I still think Boston is a possible landing spot for Asik and Lin. Asik and Lin are Boston style players, hard workers with talent and plenty of bball iq. I can see us getting involved in a big trade with Boston..perhaps sending Asik/Lin/TJones to get Rondo moved to a third team. Something like this: Boston gets: Asik/Lin/TJones/2 future first rounders Charlotte gets: Rondo Houston gets: Gordon/Zeller/Bogans While this trade doesn't look great for the Rockets when you view it initially, you have to consider all aspects of it...especially future cap flexibility. Bogan's contract...for starters...non-guaranteed with NO GUARANTEE DATE after next season. That's a huge trade chip. Gordon is an expiring w/Bird's rights so he can be signed and traded. Zeller is the value as a player here. In my humble opinion...he is the ideal big 4 that can shoot the 3 in the corner and would make a great long-term backup 5 to Dwight..while allowing us to go small with the reserve unit, moving him to 5 and inserting another range-shooting 4. The other factor is this leaves us in a place where we can go after a max free agent after this coming season...either by trade or by outright signing. Charlotte essentially gives up Zeller (#4 pick) for Rondo. They should be squeezed for a future first rounder (possibly 2 if lottery protected).
Do you guys think since 76Ers need to add about 10M sal just to get to Min. they might wanna trade for Asik and Lin? with the trade below I really doubt it. but can try. hou in: Hawes, Moultrie, M. Carter Willaams hou Out: Lin + Asik + Donuts Phi In; Lin, Asik, Donuts + (picks if needed) Phi out: Hawes (1 year contract), Moultrie, M. Carter Williams Rockets get in rookie and they go under tax limits Phi gets to their Min. sal. level and improve at 5.
If morey does this, then I give up.. Hmmm how do I put this nicely, that's gotta be the least likely trade I have seen on the Internet.. And I have been on laker ground before, that's how unlikely this is
