I want Republicans to call out those organizations as criminals just like you're calling these illegal immigrants criminals. Why don't they do that? Why aren't they going after these companies in the same systematic way they are going after these people?
Not sure, you should direct that towards a Republican, or an elected official. I would say that they are going after them in a sense by pushing for E-Verify which would prevent them from hiring illegals.
It applies to you just as much. You're the one here bending over backwards to label these people are criminals.
No it does not. I am not bending over backwards to do anything. It's very simple to me. Illegal immigrants don't respect the law, so they break it. It seems to me that you among others here are okay with that, but I am not. As far as corporations profiting from it, I am against that as well. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
My point is that you have chosen to label these people criminals without labeling companies as the same. I've already said I agree they should be punished so dont try to paint me into a position i havent taken. The companies should also be punished and have the same systematic campaign against them by the usual suspect Republicans in so called red states. It speaks to a couple of things, the racial nature of labeling minorities criminals and treating them as such by passing laws to target them and the consistent intentional blindness to holding companies accountable for their behavior.
E-verify is a prevention system. It's not a punishment for illegal activity. An illegal gets sent to detention, possibly separated from family, and deported. Nothing happens to that employer.
Our conversation wasn't about companies, it was about illegal immigrants. It has nothing to do with race. I am agree with you these companies should be punished, if you don't hire them, they won't come. Which again, is why I support E-Verify or some kind of system that employers would have to use to ensure you are eligible to work here. Not sure why you assumed I was against punishing corporations who take advantage of illegals.
No it was about you labeling them criminals. Oh it definitely has to do with race, especially in places like Arizona. I dont hear anything about putting up a wall on the Canadian border.
Because millions aren't crossing the Canadian border every year. Maybe to some people it's about race, but you could say that about anything. I don't think the overwhelming majority of people give a damn what color skin they are. I certainly don't.
In related news. http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/19/crowd-cheers-as-gop-rep-tells-girl-her-dad-will-be-deported/ Crowd cheers as GOP rep. tells girl her dad should be deported A Tennessee crowd cheered after a Republican congressman told an 11-year-old girl that her father would have to be deported. The girl, identified as Josie Molina Macareg, approached the microphone at a town hall last week to ask Rep. Scott DesJarlais, “I have a dad who’s undocumented. What can I do so he can stay with me?” DesJarlais responded, “Thank you for being here, and thank you for coming forward and speaking…the answer still kinda remains the same: we have laws and we need to follow those laws, and that’s where we’re at.” The anti-immigration advocates in the crowd reportedly applauded and cheered in response as Josie took her seat, head down. According to the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, who posted the video last week, Josie’s father is currently in the process of being deported, and the 11-year-old girl has been placed in therapy to handle her anxiety over her father’s removal. I was hoping that he would say something that was more, like, helpful,” said Josie on MSNBC Tuesday. “I was kind of mad at him.” In a statement given to MSNBC ahead of Tuesday’s interview with Josie Molina, DesJarlais said he was just trying to be truthful during last week’s town hall: “I felt I owed Ms. Molina an honest answer to her question. We are a nation of laws and breaking those laws have consequences. While this country has always had a generous immigration policy, we simply cannot condone individuals coming here illegally. As a member of Congress, I strongly believe I have a responsibility to be truthful, even if that means delivering difficult news.” Josie said Tuesday that she felt “mad” and “sad” upon hearing DesJarlais’ response, and the crowd’s enthusiastic reaction. But she shrugged her shoulders, knowing there was nothing she could do in the moment to change the outcome. “I just had to listen,” she said. Her mother, Megan Macaraeg, said she was surprised when her daughter got up to speak, after two undocumented immigrants spoke earlier and got the same response. Macaraeg is an organizing director for the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition, DesJarlais is a former physician who was elected to the U.S. House during the Tea Party-wave of 2010 in one of the largest upsets since Tennessee’s fourth district was created in 1983. DesJarlais, who ran on conservative family values, won re-election in 2012 even after divorce transcripts revealed that he counseled both his ex-wife and his former patient whom he had an affair with into getting abortions. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/viaUqLst9SU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
You keep calling them criminals even though most of them don't fit the definition for a criminal offense under our duly enacted laws. You have provided no evidence of a crime other than the conclusory logic of "they have to in order to be here." In this country, you don't get to label somebody a criminal without actual evidence of a criminal offense. To do so isn't only wrong, it is libel or slander (depending on whether it is written or spoken).
Maybe. However, they aren't enforcing the laws against hiring illegals. If they did so, there would be shut downs and large fines. Of course, that would be punishing the small to mid size businesses that the Republicans have been pandering to in recent years.
