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New Video - " You've Changed Bro " - From Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ttdestroyer, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. ParanoidAndroid

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    My grandparents were teenagers when their villages in northeastern China were invaded and occupied by Japanese armies. They saw neighbors bombed to pieces and pet dogs going feral and feeding on human corpses. A doctor was executed casually on the street because he refused to treat Japanese soldiers. My grandparents were forced to attend schools established by the Japanese military and they were not allowed to speak Chinese or taught Chinese history. My grandfather ran away from home and my grandmother quit school. I don't blame them for holding a grudge til this day, although I don't have the same grudge because I never experienced anything like that.

    But this is not racism. Not every form of hatred, discrimination, or bias is racism. I think this term is thrown around too casually around Clutchfans and that has really cheapened its meaning.
     
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    There are lots of nationalities that don't always get along, from every continent. It's stupid to single out one.
     
  3. Unstable

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    Destroyer that's not quite the right translation, the word Lin chose 改 actually means reformed which is different from the word 变 (which is the word meaning change)

    I am not sure if that was intentional but the chosen word has a better connotation of changing to become better (correcting oneself) as opposed to a generic change..... Just highlighting a little nuance in the Chinese language
     
  4. Knickskiller

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    See? Sweeping generalization. Wake up Asians are humans beings also, not some alien from another plane. :p
     
  5. Knickskiller

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    Guess where the Japs learn invade other countries in asia? Yep from all those 'great' colonial powers from 'where'?
     
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    stay classy
     
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    Japs? Seriously? What is this, 1950? :rolleyes:

    Would neg you if I could.
     
  8. itstheyear3030

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    What you fail to understand is that you are describing racism toward an ethnic sub-group (Japanese) by members of a related, but different sub-group (Chinese). When your grandparents hold grudges against Japanese people who had no direct involvement in the horrific actions of Imperial Japan, they are assuming that all Japanese possess certain negative traits and may even think of Chinese people in general as morally superior because of their experiences. I'm not saying it's unreasonable or even that it's a bad thing; I see it mostly as a self-defense mechanism.

    Like webattorney says, people will always arbitrarily draw lines separating themselves from other people. For example, many people in the UK look down on continental Europeans, many tribal groups in Africa within the same country can't stand one another, white people in America make fun of "white trash," the examples are infinite. The real issue begins when people act on these feelings or are unwilling to change them on an individual basis. Thus far, I have yet to see any objective measures of any group being more or less racist than any other group.

    In conclusion, whoever brought up this topic or subsequently stirred the pot is either a) not very intelligent, b) insecure, c) has something against Asians, or d) is trolling.
     
  9. Knickskiller

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    I totally agree, lets move on!
     
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    that is only one guy.... you know who it is.
     
  11. daywalker02

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    Few resources, full of volcanoes, seismic activity, earthquakes, fish population is dwindling, population density.

    Returning to basketball shall we?
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You realize that a lot of what you write is geographic differences and stereotypes? We have that here.

    How many people in Houston dislike new yorkers? How many people in NY look down on rednecks as being unsophisticated? I mean, it's all the same wherever you go.

    Asians haven't cornered the market of judging people.
     
  13. BigggReddd

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    How did this thread turn political?
     
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    lol...because Lin somehow always manages to become the focal point of all sorts of things.
     
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    I live in Los Angeles. A lot of white people here think white ppl in middle America are hicks. I wouldn't call them racists - just snobby aholes.
     
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    RG jr. jr. is japanese. that's all, carry on.
     
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    English sub-titled.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/bdnnjCSIhTY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    i don't really agree with your first paragraph because i think you misunderstood my post. ok, i guess i should've never gotten myself into this debate on a basketball forum in the first place. and telling an anecdote like that was probably not a good idea. forget about my grandparents for a second.

    my whole point was that people can have many "reasons" to discriminate against another group of people - not necessarily a different racial or ethnic group, could also be cultural, religious, socioeconomic, etc. it's stupid to call everything "racist", like "chinese are racist against japanese", "people from hong kong are racist against people from mainland china." it doesn't even make any sense. the term "racist" is used too casually and often inappropriately here.
     
  19. DXtreme

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    does the guy's name start with a T?
     
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    I really hope Lin ends up being a good player on the Rockets for years to come. If Lin is the answer at PG, so be it.
     

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