amaru....i sincerely mean this....go **** yourself and your pompous view of yourself and your "beliefs". you don't know everything even though you think you do. your responses are stupid and closed minded. you are the person that you complain about. i only hope you become as educated about the world as deji is. you should be listening to that guy and not shunning him as if you are a scholar. what a joke.
you don't know everything even though you think you do Only a fool knows everything. There are plenty of things I don't understand and probably never will. But I will keep trying to learn all I can until the day I die. i only hope you become as educated about the world as deji is. Overall, I think Deji and I have had a good discussion.....minus the "Aryan nation" post. I appreciate his input as well of that of other posters who engaged me in this "debate" (for lack of a better term). We don't see eye to eye on this issue.
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I think when the thread deviates from the original topic and is reduced to exchanges between two or three posters who are not the OP, it should probably be locked.
Why is it so difficult for you to use the quote feature? Everyone else has figured it out (except glynch)?
Or you could rev it up! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582 By SHELBY STEELE The verdict that declared George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin was a traumatic event for America's civil-rights establishment, and for many black elites across the media, government and academia. When you have grown used to American institutions being so intimidated by the prospect of black wrath that they invent mushy ideas like "diversity" and "inclusiveness" simply to escape that wrath, then the crisp reading of the law that the Zimmerman jury displayed comes as a shock. On television in recent weeks you could see black leaders from every background congealing into a chorus of umbrage and complaint. But they weren't so much outraged at a horrible injustice as they were affronted by the disregard of their own authority. The jury effectively said to them, "You won't call the tune here. We will work within the law." Today's black leadership pretty much lives off the fumes of moral authority that linger from its glory days in the 1950s and '60s. The Zimmerman verdict lets us see this and feel a little embarrassed for them. Consider the pathos of a leadership that once transformed the nation now lusting for the conviction of the contrite and mortified George Zimmerman, as if a stint in prison for him would somehow assure more peace and security for black teenagers everywhere. This, despite the fact that nearly one black teenager a day is shot dead on the South Side of Chicago—to name only one city—by another black teenager. This would not be the first time that a movement begun in profound moral clarity, and that achieved greatness, waned away into a parody of itself—not because it was wrong but because it was successful. Today's civil-rights leaders have missed the obvious: The success of their forbearers in achieving social transformation denied to them the heroism that was inescapable for a Martin Luther King Jr. or a James Farmer or a Nelson Mandela. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton cannot write a timeless letter to us from a Birmingham jail or walk, as John Lewis did in 1965, across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala., into a maelstrom of police dogs and billy clubs. That America is no longer here (which is not to say that every trace of it is gone). The Revs. Jackson and Sharpton have been consigned to a hard fate: They can never be more than redundancies, echoes of the great men they emulate because America has changed. Hard to be a King or Mandela today when your monstrous enemy is no more than the cherubic George Zimmerman. Why did the civil-rights leadership use its greatly depleted moral authority to support Trayvon Martin? This young man was, after all, no Rosa Parks—a figure of indisputable human dignity set upon by the rank evil of white supremacy. Trayvon threw the first punch and then continued pummeling the much smaller Zimmerman. Yes, Trayvon was a kid, but he was also something of a menace. The larger tragedy is that his death will come to very little. There was no important principle or coherent protest implied in that first nose-breaking punch. It was just dumb bravado, a tough-guy punch. Related Video The civil-rights leadership rallied to Trayvon's cause (and not to the cause of those hundreds of black kids slain in America's inner cities this very year) to keep alive a certain cultural "truth" that is the sole source of the leadership's dwindling power. Put bluntly, this leadership rather easily tolerates black kids killing other black kids. But it cannot abide a white person (and Mr. Zimmerman, with his Hispanic background, was pushed into a white identity by the media over his objections) getting away with killing a black person without undermining the leadership's very reason for being. The purpose of today's civil-rights establishment is not to seek justice, but to seek power for blacks in American life based on the presumption that they are still, in a thousand subtle ways, victimized by white racism. This idea of victimization is an example of what I call a "poetic truth." Like poetic license, it bends the actual truth in order to put forward a larger and more essential truth—one that, of course, serves one's cause. Poetic truths succeed by casting themselves as perfectly obvious: "America is a racist nation"; "the immigration debate is driven by racism"; "Zimmerman racially stereotyped Trayvon." And we say, "Yes, of course," lest we seem to be racist. Poetic truths work by moral intimidation, not reason. In the Zimmerman/Martin case the civil-rights establishment is fighting for the poetic truth that white animus toward blacks is still such that a black teenager—Skittles and ice tea in hand—can be shot dead simply for walking home. But actually this establishment is fighting to maintain its authority to wield poetic truth—the authority to tell the larger society how it must think about blacks, how it must respond to them, what it owes them and, then, to brook no argument. The Zimmerman/Martin tragedy has been explosive because it triggered a fight over authority. Who gets to say what things mean—the supporters of George Zimmerman, who say he acted in self-defense, or the civil-rights establishment that says he profiled and murdered a black child? Here we are. And where is the authority to resolve this? The six-person Florida jury, looking carefully at the evidence, decided that Mr. Zimmerman pulled the trigger in self-defense and not in a fury of racial hatred. And here, precisely at the point of this verdict, is where all of America begins to see this hollowed-out civil-rights establishment slip into pathos. Almost everyone saw this verdict coming. It is impossible to see how this jury could have applied the actual law to this body of evidence and come up with a different conclusion. The civil-rights establishment's mistake was to get ahead of itself, to be seduced by its own poetic truth even when there was no evidence to support it. And even now its leaders call for a Justice Department investigation, and they long for civil lawsuits to be filed—hoping against hope that some leaf of actual racial victimization will be turned over for all to see. This is how a once-great social movement looks when it becomes infested with obsolescence. One wants to scream at all those outraged at the Zimmerman verdict: Where is your outrage over the collapse of the black family? Today's civil-rights leaders swat at mosquitoes like Zimmerman when they have gorillas on their back. Seventy-three percent of all black children are born without fathers married to their mothers. And you want to bring the nation to a standstill over George Zimmerman? There are vast career opportunities, money and political power to be gleaned from the specter of Mr. Zimmerman as a racial profiler/murderer; but there is only hard and selfless work to be done in tackling an illegitimacy rate that threatens to consign blacks to something like permanent inferiority. If there is anything good to be drawn from the Zimmerman/Martin tragedy, it is only the further revelation of the corruption and irrelevance of today's civil-rights leadership. Mr. Steele is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Among his books is "White Guilt" (HarperCollins, 2007).
Really. It's far easier to press the little quote icon than having to go through and copy/paste then bold everything. Does not compute.
Very well written and to the point. Zimmerman case = crying wolf. For those of you who are pretending to be on a mission to bring racial injustices to light giving any credibility to this particular case set back that mission.
Amaru. My African brother. Although neither technically African nor American, I do have African ancestry and relate to your views on Pan Africanism. I often sing classics such as Mambaluya (inspired by Chinua Achebe) and Kumbaya at family gatherings and know the intense spiritual energy it gives me. I know all about the male pride and ego that comes with being a strong African male, as I spent a semester abroad in Mogadishu during college. Of course, while my colleagues were racked with dysentry and spent most of their time weak saucing, I rolled up my sleeves and built huts and implemented technology that created a better life for countless Africans. I have donated generously to Biafra seperatism. I AM La Societé des Ambianceurs et des Personnes Élégantes. And I ask. Who is Dejisan to tell us who we can and can't be? In his little kimono, with his tied feet, fluttering about, throwing about labels like a mah jong mistress. The whole premise of America, the glorious nation of, is that you can be whatever you want to be. I'm sure in his mind he thinks he can sexually satisfy a woman - so not sure who's pretending to be something they're not. Naaiers, on this page alone, there are boys who tell themselves they're girls because they want to sit down when they piss. Fine, go ahead and be transexual! Naaiers, there are people who listen to rap who tell themselves they aren't r****ded. And you know what? They survive. They make it. That's what is so beautiful about this nation. We can't be compartmentalized into a little square so some second rate journalist can label us and pretend to understand the complexity of our thought process. But. But. If we desire progress, we can't live in the past. We can't wallow in self pity. We can't fight battles that can't be won. If we create a divide in hopes of leveling the playing field, it will do the exact opposite. This "us vs. them mentality" will do just that - make it us vs them. Why do you think FUBU backfired in the 90's? It started out as For Us, By Us, then the suburban white guys got their hands on it, and it lost it's charm because it wasn't a co-existing concept. Acceptance is the way forward. If you tutor a little white boy, even though he will have countless opportunities an African won't, it's far more likely a white man tutors a little African boy in a place you can't get to. And through that process of integration, you create a connect with continental Africa and it's descendants. People, outside the top 0.5%, really aren't as racist as you want them to be. Peace. And remember, this is one only you and I will get, no matter how hot your anger is, it cannot cook yam.
I know no national boundary where the Negro is concerned. The whole world is my province until Africa is free. Marcus Garvey
Robert, close your eyes. Close them. Somebody's crying, lord. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/dPrAHCOsNBQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Somebody's in despair. Somebody feels like no one cares. Kumbaya. Oh Lord. *clap* Give me the strength to see that which cannot be seen. Oh Lord. **clap clap** Can you hear my prayers. I need you Lord, today. Robert is lost, and wants to find his way. This is the anthem.
Where's amaru? I'm interested in reading his opinions on the article by Shelby Steele, as posted above.
But that would mean all those Islam related threads should have been locked. Are you supporting terrorism?
My opinion on the Shelby Steele article: Who are these "black leaders" Steele is speaking of? What makes them "leaders"? Where they elected? If so I didn't receive my ballot. I can't really say any more on it until Steele defines what a "black leader" is and what makes these particular individuals "black leaders"
Not exactly sure what you are getting at with in your first few paragraphs but it doesn't seem to be anything bad......so [We can't wallow in self pity] Trust me, nobody is wallowing in anything over here. I know who I am and I love everything about myself....I embrace my heritage, my strengths and my weaknesses. I'm not ashamed of my family's history...I draw strength from it. We have nothing to be ashamed of....so why would I be wallowing? [If we desire progress, we can't live in the past] Not sure where you are getting the idea that I'm "living in the past from". I believe in drawing from your past and using the lessons you have learned in order to move forward. You don't dwell on it..but you certainly don't forget about it just because you think you live comfortably now. Those who reject their ancestors and elders will likewise be rejected by their descendants imho. [We can't fight battles that can't be won] What battle do you think I'm fighting? I'm curious. [If we create a divide in hopes of leveling the playing field, it will do the exact opposite] what "divides" am I creating and what means am I using to create these "divides". I'm simply calling things like I see them.....that might not make me the most popular guy around but so be it. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than pretend to be something I'm not. [Why do you think FUBU backfired in the 90's?] Because it was a "fad/trendy" clothing line that simply went out of style.....just like Southpole, Ecko etc. [If you tutor a little white boy, even though he will have countless opportunities an African won't, it's far more likely a white man tutors a little African boy in a place you can't get to.] [People, outside the top 0.5%, really aren't as racist as you want them to be] Living in a Eurocentric country.......and to a certain extent an Eurocentric world why the hell do you think I would WANT people to be racist? I'm assuming that by people you are referring to white people.....wouldn't encouraging white people to be racist be counterproductive to my goal of having African life be seen as equal as European life?
