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NBA could have hard salary cap after next CBA

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by MiracleShot, Aug 8, 2013.

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  1. MiracleShot

    MiracleShot Member

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    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/8/8/4603284/nba-salary-cap-cba-adam-silver-brooklyn-nets

    Don't like this idea at all. Lock if posted.
     
  2. arjun

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    i love it...look at the nfl...
     
  3. dharocks

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    Nothing better than seeing franchise icons getting cut for salary cap purposes.

    Anyway, a more accurate title would be "NBA could have another work stoppage after CBA expires"
     
  4. peleincubus

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    I like the NFL version WAAAAY more then mlb. But maybe they could just have higher tax penalties.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    Won't happen unless the owners are willing to shut down the league for 2 years.

    In other words, ain't no way.
     
  6. xiki

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    New management of NBAPA. New management of NBA. Things may get interesting. Well, except for fans of hardwood games.
     
  7. TheRealist137

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    NBAPA will never let contracts become non-guaranteed, especially since they are right now. The players association that allows this to happen will go down as the worst ever.
     
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    A more accurate title would be "NBA will have another work stoppage after CBA expires"
     
  9. JayGoogle

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    This won't work for the NBA the same way it does for the NFL.

    Meh if it were up to me I'd just get rid of the cap. Sounds crazy but it works for the MLB and the MLB has more parity than the NBA.

    Just because the Lakers or Nets can pay all these players doesn't mean it makes it a good idea for that player to go there OR for the team chemistry.
     
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    As long as the Russian is willing to pay the rest of the league 3 million a piece, I don't think they mind him spending so freely.
     
  11. luckytxn

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    Boo Hoo. Stern over sold the league to the newly rich dot com billionaires. Can't make money? Then fold. If I own a team I want to be able to spend anything I can afford to field the best team to win. As a fan I want the owner to pay to bring the best talent.
     
  12. RedRedemption

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    Stop. Stop. Stop.
    Would you rather have league-wide parity and compete against 29 legitimate contenders or dark horses? Or be one of the maybe six or eight that season that legit has a chance to win it all, while everyone else proves no competition for your team.

    STOP WITH THE PARITY. It makes it harder for us to win.
     
  13. gmoney411

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    No cap is a terrible idea. We never get Howard or Harden if there is no cap. 3 players can't dominate baseball like they can in basketball.
     
  14. Dairy Ashford

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    Well, they had one before Larry Bird. I guess his successor leaving was the last, best chance they had to re-implement it. I'd imagine already wealthy owners with non-basketball arena revenue could hold out longer than twenty-somethings with no other marketable skills, but new billions are probably just as hard to walk away from as existing ones. Stern is a good commissioner; not as biased as Selig, not as lucky as anyone post-Rozelle, and I think he actually enjoys his sport more than the others.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    I want a league that discourages team stacking while encouraging team play, hard work and good coaching.

    The new CBA has done a much better job with this.
     
  16. heypartner

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    Please explain this. I presume you are saying that the NFL has competitive parity because of a legal document vs MLB and the NBA

    Prove it
     
  17. jtr

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    If they did not get one in the last CBA there is practically no chance they get one in the future. Which is probably a good thing. The $84 million in luxury tax the Nets pay this season will enhance the small market NBA economies. Good luck to them.
     
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    This won't happen. First of all the NBA owners love the lux tax money coming from the lux tax payers, it's one of the things that sustain their income. Secondly, the players won't make as much if a hard cap is in play, a lot of NBA players will be forced to play overseas because the NBA teams don't have money to pay for them. The viewers get gimped because the overall NBA quality of play will go down due to the aforementioned players leaving. A hard cap will also make the NBA less interesting, 90% of trade activity will shut down because teams will find it hard to match salaries if there's a hard cap. While it seems like there's gonna be "parity", the reality is that NBA teams won't be able to rectify the mistakes they make and teams will be stuck with bad contracts for years, driving their audience away in disgust. So rather than parity, you're just gonna have a bunch of 4-6 teams who are virtually contenders and a bunch of teams who signed the wrong guys and can't do anything about it. This whole "every team will have a LBJ" argument is nonsense, what if a decision 2.0 happens and another group of guys come together and play for less salary? Without the ability to go over the cap and sign guys, who can stop that team?

    So who exactly benefits from a hard cap? No one, it's just some dude like to talk about stuff they don't understand.
     
  19. OremLK

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    Don't like it. I wouldn't mind reforming the way cap rules work though. Here's how it should work:

    1) You can play any player as much money as you want.

    2) For every dollar you spend over the cap, you have to pay a dollar to the rest of the league, split among all teams below the cap. This money can also be used freely as a cap exception for all teams receiving it.

    3) The cap is set at the average of all payrolls in the NBA

    So if the Lakers sign LeBron to a $50M contract, they have to pay him $50M and pay $50M to all teams below the cap (likely about 15 teams). Then, because the Lakers just jacked up their payroll to way above the cap, the average NBA salary rises AND all the teams below the cap get a cap exception from the $50M tax the Lakers are paying.
     
  20. heypartner

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    Hard caps have nothing to do with owners wanting competitive equality. It is all about them being greedy and wanting to keep their costs down and keeping their competitive advantage over their employees

    Imso the NBA CBA is a perfect mix between the NFL and MLB. Anyone who says the NBA has too many repeats is first denying Houston's two chips and SA's four and also denying this is a superstar sport. Then we have three chips by Detroit and one by Miami/wade. Thats 10 in 25 years. Then 6 were by Jordan. That no CBA would have prevented nor should have.

    That's 16 of the last 25
     
    #20 heypartner, Aug 8, 2013
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