Didn't the school buy his mom a house or something? I thought Cam's dad took money and it turned out not being a big deal?
Yeah, I don't think it has to be spelled out in the memo field. But they need something more precise than what they have now -- as you said, showing a significant deposit within a reasonable period. The common thread with the prior busts -- OSU's Tattoogate, A.J. Green and his jersey -- you go back and look at those stories, and it's explicit as to exactly how much those players received. The NCAA went through the records and found it. My main point was that they need more than what's in the ESPN story, and my guess is that the Manziels would know to be more discrete about the actual transaction (cash?) to make it difficult or impossible. Side note: as a Mizzou guy, we went through this for months with Frank Haith and the Miami investigation. We heard how he was screwed, how they had bank records showing X amount going to Dequan Jones, etc. But in the end, they couldn't directly prove that Haith or anyone on his staff had knowledge, and he ended up being fine (his notice of allegations was very minor). I know the circumstances aren't completely analogous with the Manziel case, but it's an example of fans putting the cart before the horse in some of these NCAA probes.
such a dumb rule, while schools make millions with their student athlete. anywho, I don't see them finding any charges against Manziel. they'll lose a lot of money if they do
We'll see what comes from this, but the NCAA is such a joke. Dropping out of the video game industry, because they know they F'd up, and instead of implementing some sort of compensation for athletes, they instead drop a very lucrative deal with EA Sports.
Im a ut fan. i like watching this guy play. i dont think athletes should be paid by schools but i do think they should be able to have corporate sponsors and maybe do stuff like this. i dont follow the twitter world but obviously hear about the johnny football tweets. he seems liketo like to have major fun that is fine. all that being said i cant believe he would be stupid enough to sell autographs in an organized setting. if he was approached with this idea i would have to believe someone close to him knew. i would hope someone said dont be stupid
Are we sure this is true? My understanding is that almost all the money the NCAA generates is through March Madness - they get very little out of football. All that money is in TV contracts with the various conferences. Same with the bowl games, given the NCAA's silly decision not to have an official playoff system.
http://espn.go.com/college-football...manziel-friend-halted-free-autograph-signings A prominent autograph broker on eBay, based in the Southeast, said that Nate Fitch -- Johnny Manziel's friend and personal assistant -- approached him last season to let him know that Manziel would no longer be signing autographs for him without compensation, according to ESPN's Joe Schad. This is apparently the guy that got all the autographs, but it seems he told him he wouldn't do it for free, and then supposedly did it for free, from what I can tell. We know he signed lots of items for sale, so I think the question the NCAA will ask is "if you didn't get compensated, why are you signing hundreds of items for a random stranger to sell on EBay?" The question is whether Manziel can come up with a reasonable response to that.
Way to falsely characterize an incredibly complicated situation. The NCAA does not have unilateral power to implement a payment system for athletes. The member schools can block that. It's one of the reason the big schools are talking about major changes. They don't want the hundreds of little schools around the country that prevent them from paying athletes because they can't afford to, to continue wielding power.
What i meant by compensation was allowing student athletes to allow them to make money off their name, not necessarily pay them.
I can see getting upset with paying players to play football, but players making money off their own fame should be none of the NCAA's damned business. Idiotic rules from an obsolete organization.
There's so much more to it too. A lot at stake. Jeremy Bloom's story is a sad, unfair, un-American one.
Sumlin seemed a little shell shocked in his news conference. It sounded like they didn't even want to talk to Johnny about the latest allegations. Maybe the Aggies wanted to speak to the lawyers before they got any of the details from Johnny. I was really looking forward to this season, hope he gets to play. And then he can get his ass out of College Station and go to the NFL.
This could be worrisome: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Because the NCAA closed the Cecil Newton loophole, buddy Nathan could be classified as an agent if he in fact sought out money for Johnny.</p>— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/statuses/364464213399310336">August 5, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So what if Nate Finch, Manziels assistant, was the one that got the money? Couldnt that be an excuse to free Manziel?
I agree, Sumlin's demeanor was a concern but on the flip side, Sumlin always seems to downplay anything Johnny Football related to focus on the team as a whole.
If you allow players to make money "off their own fame", there has to be a significant amount of regulation. A lot of non-famous players would rake in boatloads from boosters and college football would become a paid professional sport in every sense of the word. The highest bidders would win.
