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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Ramu3, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. Isabel

    Isabel Member

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    Sad. I really wanted to like this kid. I even understand some of the tweets that would be normal for anyone his age that wasn't in a spotlight. But this is getting a bit much.

    It's telling that his father is blaming the school for "not protecting the family from the NCAA" - what? Is this the kind of parent who blames their kid's bad behavior on everyone else but the kid? If so, little Johnny has been spoiled all his life and isn't going to be able to change now.
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    more personal insults aren't helping your cause, friend.

    Your logic was terrible in assuming that trouble = legally guilty. That's an incredible logic leap.

    How do all your personal insults work in a court of law? *snort*
     
  3. mrdave543

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    What an idiot. Poor aggies.
     
  4. Brando2101

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    I don't know about that. He will this year but the NCAA hasn't really capitalized on his post heisman career.

    Schools are VERY hardcore about compliance education. I doubt he put his whole career in jeopardy for this. No one is that stupid. He is just an easy target.
     
  5. Refman

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    The flaw in your logic was in assuming he was in trouble on this. If he didn't do anything wrong, he isn't in trouble. Anybody can make a groundless allegation to the NCAA. People did it with his Mercedes until his dad proved that he bought the car.

    My record in court is very good, thank you for your concern. You might want to see an ENT doctor about that persistent snort though.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    The problem with your logic is you're trying to precisely define what I meant by the subjective word "trouble". You are still clinging to the logic leap that I meant it to be "legally guilty", which you cannot prove.

    I do appreciate the fact that you were able to respond without insults. That's a step forward.
     
  7. The Cat

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    Poor Aggies for what, exactly? Unless they find the money -- and they haven't, yet -- there's nothing to this. Just like there wasn't in 2010 for Cam Newton and Auburn.
     
  8. mrdave543

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    Yup, no big deal :rolleyes:, just enough for Vegas books to take notice.

    http://bit.ly/14XtaP2
     
  9. The Cat

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    Why so defensive? You mad bro? Keep on pretending its no big deal and media is just out to get johnny. Worked out well for me defending VY ;)
     
  11. updawg

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    You need to remember, we are talking about an aggie here

    Vegas pulling the game is a bad sign
     
  12. Brando2101

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    They don't know anything. They are just being cautious. If it is true that an influx of his signed merchandise entered the market, what could be the explanation? I imagine the issue will be that they are all fake.
     
  13. The Cat

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    What am I mad about? I'm not an Aggie, and I certainly don't think the media is out to get Manziel. The NCAA is investigating him, just as the report says, so that's a great scoop by Darren Rovell. The thing you don't seem to realize is that there are two different standards of evidence here: the standard to investigate him and the standard needed to suspend him. What's in the ESPN report meets the first, but the second? Not so much.

    I have no doubt they'll try everything to eventually reach the second standard of evidence, but my guess is that when it comes to the actual payment, Manziel was smart enough to leave himself plausible deniability -- just like Cam Newton did three years ago.
     
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    I understand that this guy is young and that young people make mistakes, but when you are in his position I mean come on get your act together. He likes to throw out the excuse that he is young and he is going to do whatever he wants, and yet he believes that in 1 year he will be mature enough to handle being in the NFL and making millions. Yeah, that sounds realistic. From all reports he is planning to leave school with 2 years of eligibility left after this next season, if that is your plan then you better start acting mature. If you cant do that, then you need to stay in school longer.
     
  15. MadMax

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    I heard Lance this morning on the radio saying they have 99 sequential signings....so you're buying autographed piece number 65 out of a lot of 99, for instance.

    I'm sorry, but that certainly lends to the idea that he took money for this. Those sorts of things happen with brokers...not with little kids asking for autographs. You typically show up to a hotel room or somewhere private and it's all laid out for you to sign.

    If they're able to get to his bank accounts...and can show a significant deposit within a reasonable period after they're told these autographs went down, then he's in trouble. If not, I don't know how they prove it...but I also don't know what standard they judge by. I'm assuming it's not "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. I'm assuming circumstantial evidence is enough.

    Having said that, the NCAA has zero reason to want Manziel to miss games. He represents dollar signs to them going forward this season. And no one wants him to miss the Alabama game, which might be the most anticipated game in college football this season.
     
  16. sammy

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    Doesn't A&M have two 4 star QB's behind him?
     
  17. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    If the money simply went to his father or mother... no harm done? Simple as that, no?
     
  18. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I hope Manziel wins the Heisman then uses his stage to call the NCAA out for the slave labor system that it is. It's an un-American system in need of reform. I hope they burn it down and reshape it into something with a semblance of honor.

    If he broke the rules, he's an idiot. Still doesn't make the system right. And no, I don't have a "fair" answer, all I know is a few people are profiting like mad men off thousands of workers that aren't allowed to earn at their rightful value because the system prohibits it.
     
  19. mrdave543

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    Ask Reggie Bush, not that simple.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    I really think Manziel should be suspended for the game against Sam Houston State.

    :)
     

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