Support for repealing Obamacare plunges to an all time low.

I can't consider it a failure before it is implemented. Is it really surprising that rates increased? This isn't because of the failure of obamacare. This is because corps don't want to suffer from loss of clients.

 

It's adding 40m clients to the books. Those corps should be ecstatic.

 

at least you admit that Obamacare has problems. That's a start.

 

The bitter tears are delicious.

 

so no liberal can defend Obamacare and Obama's lack of confidence that it will work, as evidenced by him pushing back the employer mandate after the next election?

MOTION TO ADJOURN

 

Dont know why im respondingn. obamacare has led to decreased insurance premiums. there is no bigger defence that was the point

 

My former father in law (with whom I still have a good report) is a neurologist and he sees it very differently. He and his colleagues believe that this will cause many doctors to fold up their practice. Further, he laments the fact that, under Obamacare, he will no longer be able to advocate for his patients with the insurance companies. They will be relegated to the appeals process. This could take months while their MS or other neurological condition progresses untreated.

 

Maybe, but I do find it telling that labor unions and the IRS workers have gone on record saying they don't want to be part of it. If Obamacare were the wonderful program being advertised, those groups would be delighted to be included.

 

"Obamacare" was a republican option that was only adopted by democrats as a passable compromise to the single payer plan that would never pass.

It would never pass because the insurance lobby would spend anything to stop it, and they would spend millions to get the misnomered Obamacare plan (should be Romneycare) where they saw millions of new policyholders to profit from.

It's big and unwieldy and needs a lot of adjustment to get it to work well, which can't happen with this Congress. So republicans will obstruct it and call it a failure rather than trying to get a good health care plan for the American people in order to get more power and ensure more corporate profits while the middle class dies.

yup, that's politics in the USA today.

 

Generally, I am not a huge supporter of Obamacare, but this is a specious argument. Labor unions and government workers are acting out of pure self-interest. Since WWII, health insurance in the US has been tightly wound with employment (i.e. benefits), an inefficient and inequitable delivery mechanism that almost no other country in the world follows and that has contributed greatly to outrageous medical costs in the US. However, it is individually beneficial for those lucky enough to be employed by large entities that can afford to split insurance costs with their employees; thus, given that Obamacare is (feebly) attempting to alter this situation, their refusal to participate reflects nothing on Obamacare except their own interests.

 

You're dancin' bro.

 

What a red herring. insurance companies already take time to deem what health care you have access to under extreme situations.. if anything things like elemination of caps on total insurance will actually help paitients in these situations.

 

Acting in your own self interest is what built this country. If Steve Jobs hadn't acted in his own self interest, I would have this iPad to type this out on. If Henry Ford hadn't acted in his self interest, automobile mass production would never have happened in this country. There are any number of examples.

Labor unions have long collectively bargained for wages and benefits, including health benefits. They have determined that Obamacare will impact their bargained for benefits and their ability to negotiate in the future. Why wouldn't they oppose that? The argument that they shouldn't is worse than specious, it's silly.

 

What planet are you on?

Insurance companies will have a huge influx of customers? How exactly is that a loss?

My premiums have soared 33% already? How did I win???

 

truth

 

ObamaCare ain't going away folks. Love it or hate it, it is nothing short of groundbreaking legislation that will impact us all.

 

by not having to finance tons of uninsured people being rushed to an emergency room, sketchy time-based recompense of doctors, and by making sure to sate the pro-lifers by saving the lives of roughly 45,000 Americans who died every year due to lack of health insurance.

 

Ok. Im fine with you beating the same drums from four years ago. Now explain to my why my premiums keep going up. You just told me they were suppose to go down for those reasons.

What about those who had great insurance before their (greedy) employers started cutting back/dropping insurance? You can't blame the employers. Their intentions were well known before the reform was passed.

And do you really think the number of uninsured people will go down? If you can't afford it in the first place, a threaten of a tax will not make them get the money all of sudden. You will still have plenty of uninsured people on the system.

 

Explain exactly why you are making this assumption.

 

Sam, I'm curious about your opinion of Obamacare. Tell me, do you think it is the 100% solution for America? Or do you believe there is room for improvement?