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Al Harrington ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mattlivin05, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    We actually hoped Mook would become like Harrington
     
  2. IBTL

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    Yeah I pretty much completely agree. I slept on this news and I am getting very excited. Probably prematurely. We may have to stash canaan in d leaugue to right roster numbers.

    Howard
    Harrington
    Parsons
    Harden
    Lin/Bev

    very nice.
    Asik to anchor 2nd unit defense. That's nasty guys.

    Then we have role players out the ying yang for whatever specialty moment, if we are having an off night and need to inject some really solid bench play. all this other solid bench play to choose from on a list of Garcia, CambyWilliams,Casspi, Brooks, Dmo, Jones, Smith.

    Here is the 15 man roster. Can we d league jones again? and stash canaan d league too. Here are the 15 with Harrington:

    Howard
    Harrington
    Parsons
    Harden
    Lin

    6)Beverly
    7)Omer Asik
    8)Francisco Garcia
    9)Reggie Williams
    10)Omri Casspi
    11)Aaron Brooks
    12)Donatas Motiejunas
    13)Reggie Williams
    14)Donatas Motiejunas
    15)Camby

    D League Stash
    Isaiah Canaan
    Terrence Jones

    2nd unit of Beverly, Asik, and Francisco Garcia is a strong counterpunch to the harden/howard. Camby in spot sitautions. We just have so many options. That recent ming mcgrady team was pretty promising but this has got to be even more promising. This roster sky is limit.

    The only weakness in this roster is if harden and dwight have significant injuries.

    Even if either one of the other go out(with injury) in harden and howard we now have a good enough team to get to at least 6 seed
     
  3. IBTL

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    oops. I guess if we get harrington, greg smith would be odd man out.

    or we have to cut one of these guys listed below if we keep smith to get to 15 and still allow for harrington

    9)Reggie Williams
    10)Omri Casspi
    11)Aaron Brooks
    12)Donatas Motiejunas
    13)Reggie Williams
    14)Donatas Motiejunas
    15)Camby
     
  4. IBTL

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    oops again. okay sorry it's saturday morning I am not operate at 100%. So we can keep smith and still get harrington!

    Roster of 15

    Starting 5
    Howard
    Harrington
    Parsons
    Harden
    Lin

    6)Beverly
    7)Omer Asik
    8)Francisco Garcia
    9)Reggie Williams
    10)Omri Casspi
    11)Aaron Brooks
    12)Donatas Motiejunas
    13)Jones
    14)Camby
    15)Greg Smith

    D League Stash
    Isaiah Canaan
    Henriquez?

    Mix of offense and defense at all 5 positions.

    PF is weakest position spot with Smith,Camby,Jones and DMo all fighting for 2nd unit.

    Harrington starts. Asik for twin towers nastyness. Yes I am biased but this is championship team.
     
  5. RocketsWin

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    This is the final piece we need to be contenders, and it's practically falling into our laps. I don't see how Al Harrington wouldnt sign with us for the MMLE, the chance to start, and the chance to play for a contender. I do not trust DMo, Jones or Smith to start. One of them should get minutes off the bench (whichever proves to be the best), but none deserve to start on a team trying to contend. Al Harington is a proven "stretch 4" that seems to fit perfectly in our offense. He can start and play about 25 mind per game. The rest of the PF mins can go to Parsons (during small ball lineups) and the bench.
     
  6. IBTL

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    yeah we have to get this guy.

    The more I am looking at this. Positionally speaking SF is our weakest spot:

    Howard/Asik/Camby
    Harrington/Smith/DMo/Jones
    Parsons/Casspi
    Harden/Garcia/Williams
    Lin/Beverly/Brooks

    Not sure how much SF Garcia can play?Garcia did pretty good against Durant I suppose. Yeah this is a nasty roster.
     
  7. RocketsWin

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    Garcia is 6'7" and has played small forward throughout his career. I see him backing up the SF and SG spots, similar to Delfino last year.
     
  8. IBTL

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    Yeah so with harrington added then you are saying our backup sg position would be a little light with Garcia and Williams sharing that load at backup. To soften our 2nd unit shooting guard woes we could of course run the 2 pg offense with lin and beverly when harden sits. We could also shuffle in williams and Garcia or even brooks in spot 2nd unit sg situations.

    Our other weakness is freethrows (obvious) and I think we are a little light in some ways on 3s but that is being picky.

    Our 3 pointer depth chart looks something like this:
    Harden, Parsons, Garcia, Casspi, Williams, Brooks, Beverly in that order in terms of ability to make 3.

    I still think we start lin we just dont let him take 3s and stick with dribble penetration/good passing. I also see lin being effective scoring sharing some of the 2nd unit load.
     
  9. RocketsWin

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    Honestly, I would prefer that Jeremy Lin assume the Jason Terry, Manu Ginobli, Jamal Crawford, James Harden (OKC version) role on this team. We have enough scoring in our starting lineup with Harden, Howard, and Parsons. Beverley would assume the "3 and D" roll at PG since Harden is our primary playmaker anyway. Beverley shot over 37% on threes a year ago (compared to Lin at 33) and is a far superior perimeter defender. He therefore fits better with our starters (especially due to Harden being a defensive liability). With that being said, I think Lin can be "instant offense" off the bench similar to the above players. He can score, facilitate, and be the primary ball handler with the "twos." This has nothing to do with hating on Lin like some think. I just think making him our 6th man makes us a better team and maximizes his value on this team.
     
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    D-Mo and Jones currently the only 4s on the roster. Anyone else used there would be coming from their natural SF or Center.
     
  11. RocketsWin

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    What exactly have DMo and Jones done to show you that they can be full time starters for a championship contending team??
     
  12. Zoplicone

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    Players on our roster in the d-league still count against our 15 allowed. You've been a member since 2010 come on now:)
     
  13. LCAhmed

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    I do not find anything about anyone's race or belief as a reason to cut anyone....
     
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    Our goal is to go deep into the playoffs. I think championship is a tad early to talk about.
    Dmo and Jones have to prove themselves, or be gone in one or two seasons. But at least give them one or two years.
     
  15. nadman89

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    if hes fully recovered from injury ok , but i dont think we have any roster spots , assuming canaan and henriquez go to rgv , do you think hes worthy of a spot ? i think hes a taller version of francisco garcia for this team so i dont know if we really need him
     
  16. nadman89

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    id rather play parsons at the stretch four in crunch time , i think id rather use the roster spot on a young wing defender
     
  17. jtr

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    Harrington was nonexistent last season and was not even very good in 2011-2012, when he only shot 3 pointers at an above average rate from right baseline. Why take time away from young player development if you don't get a roster upgrade?
     
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  18. shaggylambda

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    For the minimum? sure, why not.
     
  19. roslolian

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    If we get Harrington he's not gonna be there for crunchtime, he's gonna be a starter and take on the stretch 4 role.

    I imagine crunchtime our lineup is DH/Parsons/Garcia/Harden/Lin or Bev. There's no need for a back wing defender, Garcia and Parsons are already capable defenders.
     
  20. roslolian

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    His TS% was decent in the 50% range...for a stretch 4 that's actually pretty good. We're not getting him for a core piece, it's just that he's a vet who fits the team like a glove.

    Why take time for player development?

    1. Because we want to win now
    2. We still have young guys like Parsons/Harden/DH/Lin who are developing nicely.

    To be quite honest there's minimal benefit in player development once your core is set, even if you sacrifice games to develop DMo there's no guarantee you'll be able to keep him once his developed. We have a lot of guys on rookie deals we won't be able to keep all of them, I'd rather not waste game performance to develop someone who might not be here next season.
     
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