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Riley Cooper and the N word

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by ZFlash23, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. conundrum

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    Hes wearing a cowboy hat at country music concert, maybe I am assuming, but I was not saying that with any kind of hate. I got plenty of country in me and my family. Definitely more of a city slicker than most of them but whatever it is besides the point.

    BTW, what is wrong with someone being country? How is calling someone country offensive? Either way even if I was saying it with some kind of hate, sure ain't as bad as dropping n-----.

    My take was more that he was probably in comfortable environment around all his white friends where he felt he could yell crap like that and not have to face any consequences. Cooper is only sorry because he was caught and exposed. T
     
  2. Mr. Space City

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    we're talking about a mediocre player who is a distraction. therefore his production on the field doesn't outweigh the distraction it brings. same thing happened to TO and Ocho Cinco when they were not good enough to compensate the distractions they brought to a locker room.

    the lakers aren't going to cut kobe for a homophobic slur because he's kobe.

    bill romonoski was a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE person but still kept his job in the nfl because of his production on the field.
     
  3. dharocks

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    Were any of those comments actually directed at gay people?

    Besides, Culliver didn't actually use a slur and he was still forced to backtrack, if he hadn't he probably would have been cut.

    In Cooper's case, the talk about him losing his job is directly related to the fact that he's a marginal player, and keeping him might be a greater distraction than it's worth. If it were someone like Jordy Nelson who made the comments, people wouldn't be talking about him losing his job but he'd obviously be facing discipline.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    I think you have Some deep-seated race issues. Otherwise I can't imagine why you'd be so eager to use the word.
     
  5. tehG l i d e

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    Riley Cooper is just getting fine for it too so you're overblowing it being overblown.
     
  6. khanhdum

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    lol okay buddy. first he has to attend sensitivity counsel, then now he might lose his job. he was a marginal player but with Maclin out for the season, he was suppose to step up. i don't know, maybe it's just me but i don't see it that big of a deal. he made a mistake, and was drunk and mad at the time, so something slipped out. it doesn't determine who he is as a person.
     
  7. ZFlash23

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    I have never used the word nor will i ever use the word.

    My whole point is this:

    Its easy to point the finger at someone being wrong on the surface... Obviously Cooper is in the wrong. He used the word he shouldnt have. Easy.

    Whats more difficult is to ask the question, What can we do individually to help society move past this issue....

    When you have people saying ," its ok to use the word, if i end it with -ga and not -ger" bc theres a big difference in meaning...... how is society ever going to change? The average american does not know the difference. If they hear that word, they assume youre using the word which is filled with hate. So why cant we accept that fact that it shouldnt be used at all and its not ok for black people to call each other that... People on here are defending the fact that theres a difference, which im saying there isnt...

    See the Richard Pryor documentary. He realized late in his career that it wasnt ok for him to use that word and he stopped using it.


     
  8. gifford1967

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    Yeah, I think when you start yelling at a black security guard about fighting n1ggers you lose the benefit of the doubt about being racist. But that's just me.
     
  9. khanhdum

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    yea that is just you (and a lot of other people) but if he was a racist, why would Maclin be his closest friend on the team? it was an isolated situation that was wrong but shouldn't determine what he is as a person. we all make mistakes.
     
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    you act like white people learned that word from black people.

    white people used that word way before black people modified that the word.

    black people could stop using their version of the word and there are still white people out there that will still use that word.
     
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    Just punish him and get over it.

    This kid isn't good enough to warrant all of the publicity that he's getting.
     
  12. otis thorpe

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    I dont mind a real discussion on black usage of the word. but a real discussion on that issue involves deep intellectual study of the results of black history on the. psychology of blacks today. and that is complicated because blacks are just as diverse as other groups.

    Lastly this idiot has nothing to do with that discussion
     
  13. gifford1967

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    Bull****. I've known plenty of people who had black "friends" and were still racist as ****. It's not uncommon.
     
  14. sew

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    The ol' "I have black friends, so I can't be racist," defence.

    Always good for a chuckle.
     
  15. khanhdum

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    true, since i know some black people who have white friends who are racist as **** also
     
  16. CometsWin

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    The average American is certainly aware of the difference. The average American is free to use whatever word they want though. Go for it. If someone is offended by what you say, that's their right too.
     
  17. gifford1967

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    Then why are you trying to use this as evidence that Cooper isn't racist?
     
  18. juicystream

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    I've known black people to say it.

    I would like to know:

    Are "playa" and "player" two different words?

    How about "cracka" and "cracker"?

    Is improper English the creation of a new language?

    I'm just curious.

    As for Riley Cooper? Country concert dressed like a red neck and threatening black security guys while calling the n****** is pretty bad. Context is important, and it was not pretty.
     
  19. Mr. Space City

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    those words have nothing to do with the current subject.
     
  20. meh

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    There are some words where you should just cross out of your vocabulary. To me this isn't even about being PC or being racist. It's about having common sense. If Cooper lack the common sense to not use such words, then he is either (A) truly a racist or (B)incredibly stupid. Either reason is worth getting cut for.
     

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