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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    That is not what he said. But out of curiosity how did you come up with child p*rn from what he said?
     
  2. Felixthecat

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    This is the punishment you would give your son for child p*rn as you call it. But Trayvon....He needs to go. When the OTHERS make poor decisions they need to be eradicated...but when it's YOUR chlid...You erase all evidence and take his phone for a week. Great parenting.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    I didn't say it was legal for someone under 18 to do p*rn.

    I said it was acceptable morally for Trayvon to have nude pictures of presumably highschool girls on his phone...BECAUSE a lot of guys do and might be having sex with said girl any ways. Man I went to a school where a chick was caught giving a blowjob to a guy in the restroom...she was suspended...that was her punishment. People are reasonable...they understand at that age people get curious about sex and their hormones flare up. No TEEN is getting in serious trouble for seeing other TEENS naked...or even having sex with other TEENS.

    AGAIN...if this was 8 year old girls that's a COMPLETELY different...and I'm ASSUMING that if it were, it would be a pretty big story by now. If Trayvon was OVER 18 then that's a completely different story...

    IF Travyon was forcing these girls to take pictures...again that's different. From what we know he had naked pictures of girls on his phone. Maybe some he knew that sent them to him...maybe some he got from friends and decided to keep as any perverted 17 year old would...some of us are trying to sit here and make him seem like he had this collection of 8 year old girls on his phone or something.
     
  4. Granville

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    If I had evidence of more than just a receiving a photo then I would have taken corrective measures to help my son understand right from wrong. I would have sent him to counseling first. I didn't expect the martins to have him thrown in jail for anything. They stuck their heads in the sand and passed him around.

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  5. JayGoogle

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    He's going with this "underage" thing and assuming the worst.

    It's a play on words for those out to justify Trayvon's death because it's techinically true...and those who want to assume the worst can assume anything at this point. That he had pictures of naked toddlers on his phone or something...

    Instead assuming the logical that he had sexting pictures of girls on his phone like most high-school/college kids that get any play from women nowadays.
     
  6. Felixthecat

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    Everyone deserves the right to have faith in their children to give second, third, and sometimes even more chances to change. By law GZ got away....but that doesn't change that fact that his piss poor billy bad ass decision making, prevented the Martins from giving TM another chance at anything. GZ's bad choice led to TM's bad choice. Cause and effect with a persons life as the consequence.

    For you it's easy to say get over it...the kid was a thug. To the Martins he was much more than that.
     
  7. Granville

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    Drama Queen..... Where did I say that Trayvon needed to go or be eradicated for the photos? I gave multiple examples of him being out of control and disrespectful all of which contributed to him going down a path in life where he thought it was ok to assault someone for following him.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    Wait...so you're admitting that Trayvon receiving naked pictures from his peers is pretty understandable then?

    You really don't know that they stuck their heads in the sand. Just because he was 'out of control' doesn't mean they didn't try so I don't get blaming the parents at all in this.

    I also don't get how anyone would expect the parents to side with Zimmerman's side of the story.
     
  9. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Oh ok I got you now. I still find it hard to think Trayvon had child p*rn on his phone. We all know them pictures were most likely high school classmates.
     
  10. Felixthecat

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    I'm a concerned parent of minority children. The attacks on Trayvon are unnecessary since he was a juvenile and the fact that HE IS DEAD. You don't know why he attacked GZ and that's the part that would eat me up as a father. All of the unknowns of the case and the fact that GZ also had a past of aggression and poor judgement he went vigilantly and deep down inside you know it.

    Would you proudly let your son's read your posts on this site? Do you think either would approve? All you're doing is attacking a dead kid for making stupid kid choices.
     
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  11. Granville

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    Tell you what.... Have a talk with the Pastor at your church, a cop or a judge and ask them if it's morally acceptable.
     
  12. Granville

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    Never once said that. As I said some pages back my non verbal autistic son was a victim of a predator that got the b*stard 15 years in jail. I wanted him to get more time than that but the law is the law.

    I dont agree with their manipulation of the facts in this case and their actions since the verdict was rendered.
     
  13. Granville

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    My son and I have talked about this and we agree on it.
     
  14. Granville

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    Where did I say it was understandable??? You are being an idiot. I'm not responding to you from this point forward.
     
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    A pastor thinks it's unacceptable for anyone to have sex before marriage, what a silly idea. That same pastor might tell me it's immoral for two guys or two girls to have sex...not sure why I'd be taking advice from that guy.

    A cop would shrug at that. You do know the age of consent differs from state to state right and is all under 18?

    It's not some grievous crime for two teens to sex up each other. The underage p*rn law is for pedophiles and not sexting.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between a child or teen, or a guy who doesn't know the definition of music, or a guy who doesn't know the difference between 'Child p*rn' and 'Sexting'

    Who also doesn't seem to be aware of the laws of sexual consent either.
     
  17. Felixthecat

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    I didn't read that far back. Much respect for raising a child with autism...I have friends that have children with autism and I also know a great guy that created a resource book for children with mental and physical disabilities. It's not easy and I'm sorry for what happened to your son.

    I would think that as a parent of a child with autism you would have a little more tolerance for imperfections and just love life for what it is. Trayvon could have very well been a child with autism too...acting strange, aggressive and could have gotten scared lost and then attacked out of fear. Now I know he didn't have autism, but how do we know GZ even waited to find out? All we know is he was attacked, he was losing, Trayvon is dead. Again...as a parent. Would you not be asking...Why George? Why did you not just stay in your car? Why didn't you wait for the police?
     
  18. Granville

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    Appreciate the kind words regarding raising an Autistic son. Oh, I do love life for what it is. Despite what happened to my son, my wife and I help raise funds for 15-25 Autism families a year to go on retreats, We have also reached out to Autism families in another country.

    I did ask all those questions of GZ and the answer was that none of that is illegal. I wish he had just let him go on his way. I firmly believe that TM felt disrespected and went with street justice. That is illegal and put him in harms way.

    As a parent, when the Martins say they don't know what to tell kids. They should start by saying don't resort to violence.
     
  19. Nook

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    You don't know/no one knows if Zimmerman attacked Martin. The fact that the state could not prove Zimmerman was the initiator of the physical confrontation is exactly why the jury acquitted Zimmerman.

    Both Zimmerman and Martin were less than ideal citizens so there is no reason to attack them. To be honest I wouldn't want either of them living in my neighborhood or around my family.

    For every "why George, why didn't you stay in your car" there is a "Why Trayvon, why did you attack Zimmerman"... The unclear facts of the case are perfect for people to see what they want to see.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    Exaclty. Which makes it quite silly to expect the parents to side with Zimmerman on this case at all.
     

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