Terrence Jones arrested in Portland for stomping on homeless man

Nope, just an attorney. If you have a lot to lose, like Jones does, you will pay to have the best legal counsel you can afford. Once the court appearances, public statements, plea deals are discussed and everything else you are looking at a legal fee that easily could approach $25,000; especially if local counsel for Jones meets or discusses the case with Jones' general counsel and/or agent.

 

The condescending never ends with you does it? You've wore me out!
Peace & Love brah......
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Tell you what... when you, a supposed Rockets fan on a Rockets message board, drops the condescending and judgmental tone toward one of our players, I'll drop it toward you. Deal?

 

Ummm....he pled not guilty so someone has already disputed a police sergeant's testimony. That's why we have trials and due process of law. It has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Why do you keep repeating that? Police reports get disproven all the time.

 

NO DEAL!!!!
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You don't know that he "tripped" over anyone. I didn't say anything about the homeless being better or worse than you or I. I tell you what, why don't you try screaming at a normal guy sleeping and allegedly kick him in front of a police officer and see what happens... The same thing that happened to Jones.

It is a misdemeanor, if he really hauled off and stomped the guy he would have been charged with assault... Still it was a dick move by Jones and not his finest hour.

 

According to Jones' attorney:

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/08/nbas_terrence_jones_lawyer_say.html

Not sure what the elements of Oregon's harassment charge are, but as to the question of "Do I think Terrence Jones is a huge *******?", I think it matters whether Jones was acting out of frustration after tripping over a guy as oppose to picking on a guy because he is homeless.

The former doesn't make Terrence Jones an angel-- He should have looked where he was going instead of blaming a sleeping (and not moving) person for the trip, he should have controlled his temper and have more understanding for a guy who had to sleep on the street (or in a doorway) and certainly should not have screamed at the guy, let alone making physical contact with any degree of unnecessary force, even if he wanted to wake the sleeping guy up.

The latter scenario-- picking on a homeless person out of hatred/spite or enjoyment of his suffering-- would have made him a much bigger ******* in my book.

 

You are ignorant of the realities of the US justice model. If you think any of the inebriated witnesses will out way a police sergeants testimony then you are living in Oz. Pleading not guilty is what everyone does when charged with a crime. That, needless to say, changes as the case progresses.

 

The point of that was not to paint a picture of a victim and I could care less for your sympathy. Why do I need to admit that their circumstance is not mine? Isn't that, in fact, what makes it their circumstance? I would agree that a minority of them would be in a mental institution, but not the majority..

You must think very highly of yourself to question my complete character after a couple of jabs. I'm not really sure why you feel that it is necessary to be the savior of the homeless image. Just like anything else, there are good and there a bad versions of everything. The ones who take advantage ruin what is there for the ones who truly need it. For those truly in need, I feel for them. It doesn't seem realistic and practical to think that every homeless person is in one of the positions you stated.

 

I agree but he's not going to prison and he's not going to be kicked out of the NBA. He didn't murder anyone or even injure anyone. He was, at the very worst, a jerk.

 

Why even have courts then?

 

This is pretty much my view of the situation as well.

In one scenario he's an immature kid who needs to work on his temper, something that's not all that uncommon among pro athletes his age. Mostly an issue of wrong place, wrong time. In the latter, he's an enormous ******* who appears to have serious mental problems. He has something to apologize for in both scenarios, but in terms of who he is as a person and his future with the Rockets, there's a huge difference in the two. Need to wait for more testimony/evidence to decide.

 

Sorry can't edit. The vast majority of cases are pled out so, no, not everyone pleads not guilty. Methinks you get your knowledge of this from Law and Order reruns on TNT.

 

They are terrible. My wife lived at Goodall Wooten, and they always hung out at the church next to it. They asked her daily for money, and the norm was to call her every bad name in the book when she didn't oblige. I'm always surprised that there aren't many fights with as rude as they are.

 

He could have been doing drugs and Terrence was being aware of a junkie, was disgusted for a moment, intoxicated himself. Stepped on him and then yelled wake up to avoid any further contact.

Police guy didn't see if it was a basketball player at first. Could have seen just a fragment of what happened.

 

I agree with you 100%.

 

LOL. Not every but many. And how do you personally separate them? Guilty by your personal definition by default? Just guilty? Guilty until proven innocent? Your model of societies ills needs revision. And yes I can question your character. It is after all my right. But seriously, if you have not walked a mile in their shoes ...

 

yeah its not about him as a basketball player and should or should not kick him off the team or suspend him...its his personality and his nature that that concerns me if all this is true...that is an ******* move. i like jones, i think he is the rockets most promising 4, but this is a red flag.

on the lighter light, we need to send Jones to MTV's Bully show :grin:

 

haaaaaaha WTF ? Cops are some of the most notorious liars on the face of the planet and it's been proven many times in actual court rooms .