Terrence Jones arrested in Portland for stomping on homeless man

I guess we live in megacity 1 now.

 

His defense costs will be in that range if he goes to trial. If he can pay $25,000 to get it all to go away, he is lucky.

 

If I tripped over a sleeping homeless dude in the middle of the sidewalk, I would absolutely say something as I would if anyone were there. They have the choice to sleep almost anywhere, why be in a place that would block foot traffic? Just not logical and would probably lead to a couple of words for me.

 

No one will dispute a police sergeants testimony. So yes he will be found guilty. You can certainly disagree but that in no way changes the facts.

 

That analogy doesn't even make any sense.

What explanation do you have for a man who has been homeless for the past 18 years, is on food stamps, clean Nike shoes on his feet, really doesn't want to be homeless but hasn't found a job or a place to live in 18 years?

 

Are you equating Terrence Jones being charged with a misdemeanor for allegedly kicking a bum with tying someone up and hanging them by their neck until their dead?

 

Sigh. You have bored me to death.

 

If you have dealt with most of the "street kids" on the "drag" in Austin then that should be enough to justify the stupidity of that statement. That is more in regard to the rape analogy. They aren't even vaguely tangible. Those kids were choosing to live that way and was a way of life for them. And while I lived at the Lofts at the Ballpark, the racket that the homeless had going on there was infuriating. I dealt with them on a daily basis and had one break into my vehicle. I had a couple curse me for giving them food and not money. And, I also had quite a few yell at me when I cut them off in the middle of their presentation about their current predicament that I had previously heard from other homeless patrons in the area. I don't relate my experiences to the entire homeless population, but they have no reason to garner my respect either.

 

I stated that I didn't see the link that addressed the word stomp, and yet you ignored that so I think the agenda lies on your end.
As I've stated already, I'm only commenting and giving and opinion on stuff that I have read. As I've stated before I don't think I'm
mudslinging, I'm only commenting and giving an opinion on the information available and it's not my fault that the majority of the
information so far has not been favorable towards Jones.
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#1 who said anything about someone sleeping in the MIDDLE of the sidewalk?
#2 when did screaming at someone equate to "a couple words"?

It is simple, screaming at a sleeping homeless man is a douche move... Period. Doesn't mean it is worthy of jail time or losing your job... but it is an ******* move.

 

So, he'll probably get community service and have to clean up after homeless for a few months.

 

$25,000 for a misdemeanor charge?

You must be crazy.

 

Press releases from the Portland Police Bureau, the official police report of the incident, and the charging document filed by the district attorney are three entirely different things in my view.

No one here knows what is actually stated in the police report. Jone's attorney claims the word "stomp" is not in the charging document. I would have to think the word "stomp" is not in the charging document because it is a harassment charge and not assault.

 

The information tends to be "not favorable" at first to the person that's accused. That's why he's accused. And the legal system dictates that person keep his mouth shut (i.e. Miranda warning`) until the appropriate time in court.

Unless you were born yesterday, you've probably seen several examples of accused people who turned out to be completely innocent. If you care about Jones at all -- and considering he plays for the Rockets, you should -- why not respect the possibility that there's something to his side of the story (considering he's pleading not guilty)? At least wait until he has his day and can give his full version of events.

 

Well aren't you the proper victim. You certainly do not have my sympathy. And yes, you have no call to respect them. But can you pity them? Can you at least admit that their circumstances are not yours? Can you understand that many of them a generation ago would have spent their lives in a mental institution? Do you know that so many of them are not their by active choice but due to circumstances beyond their control? Do you have any sympathy or empathy in your existence?

 

The charging document would likely include a description of the incident. Moreover, if the term "stomp" were something the officer were willing to testify to, it seems likely they would pursue assault.

While those items are three different things, they're all coming from the same source. In addition, 1 of those 3 has a higher standard of proof -- and it's the charging document, because it's to be critiqued in court. If the identical source tones down his accusation in the most formal setting, the seemingly logical explanation is that he isn't sure and can't testify to it.

 

It seems I boggled my train of thought.

 

We call 'em drag rats. They're rude and terrible. They all have "pity dogs" to help garner "support" and "donations."

 

You use the word "homeless" like it should garner some extra sympathy.

Jones screamed at a guy he tripped over who was sleeping where people are walking.

Sure, it was a douche move, but some of you guys are making homeless people to be the equivalent of a box of innocent kittens.

They are no different than any other random guy. Doesn't matter that he is homeless.

 

No, I am equating the knee jerk reaction of CF posters guaranteeing and/or hoping he will be imprisoned and kicked out of the NBA for a Class B misdemeanor without due process of law.