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[hip hop]Tupac vs Jay Z

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tinman, Jul 30, 2013.

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Who wins

  1. 2pac

    71 vote(s)
    55.0%
  2. Jay Z

    24 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. if 2pac was still alive, he'd get Beyonce too

    30 vote(s)
    23.3%
  4. if 2pac was still alive, Beyonce would still be with J

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    3.1%
  1. BDswangHTX

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    High Occupancy Vehicle.
     
  4. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    I heard a few more say this and I disagree totally but I can see how one can say that about Biggie because he only had really two albums.

    I think both Pac and Biggie would have stayed on top of the rap game if neither one dies. I mean who was going to knock them off? And I remember some people saying Pac were the GOAT before he died.
     
  5. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Is this a real question?
     
  6. VanityHalfBlack

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    Seriously guys is he being sarcastic? Jazy calls himself that?
     
  7. mrm32

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    Jay Z calls himself the god mc, Jay Hova. A play on words with jahova. Hova or Hov for short.
     
  8. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    Yea. Many people I know call him hov that's when he was pretty good.
     
  9. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    This song is just real.

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  10. josephnicks

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    yea and i think this is real..
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  11. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    that ain't real dude

    that's like 3d , this is 4d

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  12. josephnicks

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    you seem to be under the impression that "real" and "deep are strictly confined to sob stories involving, struggle and guts & glory..

    i was a huge pac fan in high school, i can honestly say ive heard every pac song, i doubt you could say the same about jay..
     
  13. josephnicks

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    letter 2 my unborn you posted isnt even the real song.. released after he died, pac never ryhmed over liberian girl.. a real pac fan would know this..

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  14. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    the lyrics are real.


    when Tupac's holograph showed up at Coachella, it wasn't real, but it was real.

    you feel me?

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  15. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    I haven't heard every Jay Z song, true.

    But based on his style, lyrics, persona, and the songs that i have listened to,
    i'm going to say Tupac is more exciting of a person and artist.

    But Jay Z's non rap accomplishments are impressive, his businesses and his catch of Beyonce, he has the president on speed dial.
     
  16. Shroopy2

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    About as "subtle" as a Lil Jon song
     
  17. Obito

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    Well tries to at least
     
  18. Shroopy2

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    I listened to Jay-Z Magna Carta.... I characterized that as "dad rap". I liked release approach, didnt dig the album. And I think it is LAME that its Jay-Z passing up ELVIS PRESLEY for the all time #1 albums record.

    On launch day listening to radio stations play Jay-Z's older catalog of songs, I gained a little MORE appreciation of him. He's had lots of songs over the years and guest spots that didnt seem outstanding or anything but in retrospect is things you jammed to. Like it or not, Jay-Z is a huge symbol of culture.

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    - Tupac maybe exaggerated his persona, but was not what I consider fake. He's the son of Black Panther revolutionists. (His own AUNT right NOW is on FBI Most Wanted List)

    - Pac and Biggie was the BEST AND the WORST of Hip Hop. They brought it up AND down. Their music inspires. It really did seem like they were running NY and Cali then. But their lifestyle choices OBVIOUSLY are a huge BLEMISH. Unsustainable real thuggery.

    - Unlike Jay-Z and Biggie, Tupac was NOT MATERIALISTIC, and didnt deal in the metaphor, cliche and pop references. And didnt deal much in "sick flows". Its really quite a feat for him to built as landmark a career without resorting to the "easy way".

    (And from that, can see how earlier rappers like Scarface have credibility, because they talked about life and the world and had something to say)

    - While Tupac's introspective ways are admired, I think most people still just take to Tupac's straight line prideful ANTAGONIST quality.

    People want the Tell-it-Like-it-Is "I DON'T GIVE F***" way and to emulate and feed off of. They want the visible machismo (though they're not activists), they're not wanting the poems.

    Hard to pick a "winner". FROM MY VIEW - When it comes to best ever albums lists, Tupac's don't seem as as high as Biggie's bests or Jay-Z Reasonable Doubt (which I think is overrated but people seem to praise it).

    But Tupac's presence I think would be great, he's a "light up the room" type. Has flair for movies and general entertainment. He'd have discussion podcasts now and all kinds of stuff. Imagine Tupac on Twitter now. Sad loss still
     
  19. LonghornFan

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    Yes, his teenage years were in Baltimore but the majority of his life experiences came from the boroughs.

    Linky.

    I know you know your Pac bruh, I'm just busy laughing at the Missy Elliot, Eazy E, etc. better than HOV. JFC, post is so dumb.
     
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  20. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    How's the poll biased ?


    The beyonce question is legit and you have two options
     

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