I've never said that his raw stuff is "great", and i've never built him up as a staff Ace. All i've ever said is that he is a solid starter, and I guess that word solid has different meanings to some. In any case, we can all argue our points on guys who some of us think are good and others think are overrated, these boards are all about opinions. But to think that he is about to go into decline, or that he is likely to suffer an injury when he has no history of that, to me that seems to just be searching for something bad to say. You pick out Harang as a comparison, we could all find one guy to compare someone else to if we wanted to, just to prove our point. You could very well be right, i'm not saying you are necessarily wrong. I've just never heard anyone talk about likely decline for a guy who is 28, in his 4th full season, and having probably his second best of the four seasons right now. That's all.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Braves&src=hash">#Braves</a> are not on Bud Norris. Never have been.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/362615100793815041">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Braves&src=hash">#Braves</a> are not on Bud Norris. Never have been.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/362615100793815041">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Low minors in my mind means single A... similar to the Veras trade. If they're highly rated prospects, I don't care where they are in the system. We have enough MLB ready or near ready prospects in AAA and AA that we can add to the ridiculous depth already in A ball.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Trade chatter definitely picking up today on Bud Norris. Braves, Diamondbacks may now have interest. Orioles not in on him, though.</p>— Danny Knobler (@DannyKnoblerCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/DannyKnoblerCBS/statuses/362615916405592067">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
SOURCES!!! Braves in, Braves out Orioles in, Orioles out Pirates in, Pirates out DBacks in, DBacks out
Exactly, makes the whole process "fun" I suppose, but nothing we read really means anything till it's about an actual deal
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Braves&src=hash">#Braves</a> have not changed their stance on Bud Norris. They have never targeted him as an option for their rotation.</p>— Mark Bowman (@mlbbowman) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbbowman/statuses/362615803000012800">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Some talk of Rangers interest in Norris, possibly to spin off for a hitter</p>— Danny Knobler (@DannyKnoblerCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/DannyKnoblerCBS/statuses/362617296688132096">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Correcting earlier tweet: Braves are not in on Bud Norris. Sorry, misunderstood a text message.</p>— Danny Knobler (@DannyKnoblerCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/DannyKnoblerCBS/statuses/362617542264623106">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'd love Glasnow, but Heredia or Bell would be nice consolation prizes. A couple of those low-minors guys that I'd like to see in a possible Pirates haul are C Jin-De Jhang (Jamestown, short-season), 2B Dilson Herrera (West Virginia, A), and maybe RHP Clay Holmes (WV, A).
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Source: Despite last night's retirement of Scott Elarton, the Sugar Land Skeeters are NOT in on Bud Norris.</p>— Matt Jackson (@MJ4Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJ4Sports/statuses/362617934679523331">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Matt Vasgersian of MLB Net gets biblical on Bud Norris trade talks: “The Astros are hanging on to him like the Dead Sea Scrolls.”</p>— David Barron (@dfbarron) <a href="https://twitter.com/dfbarron/statuses/362617020182822912">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Orioles need to keep up with pitching rich Rays and Red Sox. In on Norris, interest in Saunders. Duquette trying to make something happen.</p>— Nick Cafardo (@nickcafardo) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickcafardo/statuses/362621017174192128">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>A wide range of opinion on what Bud Norris is worth. Some teams peg him as No. 4-type starter, some clubs think better suited as a reliever.</p>— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/statuses/362622612523847681">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
