<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>o's had made no offer as of this a.m. for norris. but astros still hopeful baltimore could get more aggressive.</p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/statuses/362595867443732480">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Sources told <a href="http://t.co/MCrT7Pxynv">http://t.co/MCrT7Pxynv</a> yesterday Pirates, D-backs and Orioles are after Norris. Let's see what today brings.</p>— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/statuses/362595220199718912">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>dbacks, pirates dont seem to be aggressively pursuing norris. chance stros keep him. not big impetus to move -- $3M salary</p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/statuses/362594944612974592">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&src=hash">#Astros</a> seem to be collecting final offers on Bud Norris. Price still high. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Orioles&src=hash">#Orioles</a> still interested. One dark horse could be <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SFGiants&src=hash">#SFGiants</a></p>— Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaysonst/statuses/362594909129154560">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>If <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&src=hash">#Astros</a> don't move Norris, biggest immediate question becomes how situation is handled moving forward.</p>— Brian T. Smith (@ChronAstros) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronAstros/statuses/362596243689582592">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Not sure O's can put together a competitive offer for Bud Norris unless they part with Bundy or Gausman, which would be insane. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23astros&src=hash">#astros</a></p>— Marc Hulet (@marchulet) <a href="https://twitter.com/marchulet/statuses/362597108395683840">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I'd like to see a Norris move made but I understand that keeping him until he offseason might be best for us.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>As promised Bud Norris Action picking up big time in last hour. Multiple teams involved Orioles and Braves being two according to source</p>— Nick Cafardo (@nickcafardo) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickcafardo/statuses/362598688335470592">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This. Our leverage is reduced by the fact that 1) we held him out of the game last night and 2) the public comments he's made around playing in SF or for a contender. Now we're in a position where he expects to be traded, and if he doesn't, he could be let down and it would get awkward between him and the Astros. Other teams know this, so it will be balanced with their own desperation for a decent back of the rotation starter.
Eh, if he's not traded then he needs to suck it up and be a professional. If he can't do that, then all the media pundits who claim that he wouldn't be able to handle the pressure of a pennant race or playoff game are more right than wrong. We don't have to trade him. He's not going to be a free agent... That's about the only scenario that reduces "leverage." Either teams want him and are willing to give Luhnow what he wants, or we keep him and try this again next year.
I don't think we have lost any leverage, but even if you are right about that, if Luhnow doesn't get what he wants I think we will keep him. Yes, he did make some comments about pitching for a contender, but he has also always seemed fine with staying an Astro. Heck, go back a week and when we won the Cosart start in the 9th inning he was the first one rushing out of the dugout in excitement. To me this isn't an Oswalt deal where a guy was trying to beg his way out and was mouthing off about the direction of the team, I think Bud will be just fine if he is here tomorrow.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>On Bud Norris front. Hearing A's could be in mix too but doubtful since they are in same Div.. Look out for Dbacks as front runner. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23astros&src=hash">#astros</a></p>— Randy McIlvoy (@RandyMcIlvoy) <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyMcIlvoy/statuses/362601103596060672">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Or we keep him, Cosart shows to be a legit starter next year, Appel is up and throwing like a #1 overall draft pick, Singleton and Springer join Villar, Castro, Altuve, Carter on an offense that surprises, and Bud helps as a veteran starter on a team that appears headed in the right direction.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Braves&src=hash">#Braves</a> were "out" on <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&src=hash">#Astros</a>' Norris, source says. Would be interesting to see them return to talks during final day. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLB&src=hash">#MLB</a></p>— Brian T. Smith (@ChronAstros) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronAstros/statuses/362601797182959616">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Orioles&src=hash">#Orioles</a> still saying that prices for SP, bat are too high to make move. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ticktock&src=hash">#ticktock</a></p>— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/statuses/362602224288927746">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Luhnow is waiting for the teams to get desperate and then Luhnow strikes with a big package... Oh hail Jeff Luhnow... Pirates might be the team astros deal with... Stay tuned... In a hour or so something ail go down...
I'd still trade him. He's worth more in potential prospects than he is as a "veteran" with increased arbitration salary for production that has likely already peaked.
I love how teams are supposedly just announcing that "prices are too high" via the media. As if this has any impact on how a smart/calculating GM is going to go about his demands.
Bedard is now listed as starter tonight. Bud was originally only moved back a day. More evidence that he'll move today?
The team is on track to lose 100+ games, and not be in the playoffs next year if Norris stays. They care less than zero about his feelings if he doesn't get traded.
Didn't they say yesterday that Bud had just been pushed back to pitch on Wednesday? If so, scratched again. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/Erik_Bedard">@Erik_Bedard</a> gets the ball against former team as <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&src=hash">#Astros</a> take on Orioles at 6:05 CT: <a href="http://t.co/FMO5DcFlZs">http://t.co/FMO5DcFlZs</a></p>— Houston Astros (@astros) <a href="https://twitter.com/astros/statuses/362603887968002048">July 31, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I was wondering why they didn't just move Norris to Thursday in the first place. And Bedard to Friday, for that matter (what ever happened to moving him?).
