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Lowe on OKC Finances and the Harden Trade Legacy

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Icehouse, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Where have you been?
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    IIRC, the nationalized tv deals pay revenues to the league, which can fork the cash out equitably. During the lockout, there was talk about more revenue sharing from the local deals, but I don't think that went anywhere. I think you're right that ultimately the custom package could displace the local deal as the cable industry changes. But even if it happens, you probably still need to wait a decade. And even then, if the league splits those revenues according to who subscribes to what, the Lakers still win.

    This is why I think the Sacramento owners promising away their subsidy was so dumb and bad for basketball. If they ever get lucky like OKC, they'll also ultimately shoot themselves in the foot like OKC because even a rabid Sacramento fanbase just isn't big enough to compete with the big boys.
     
  3. NotChandlerParsons

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    Maybe, but it also depends on how cheap the ownership is. As Lowe pointed out, they could have just amnestied Perkins, but the ownership is literally so cheap they are not willing to eat $8 million dollars.
     
  4. Easy

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    Well, believe me, LA fans are as provincial as any backwaters place. All they know is the Lakers.

    But I agree with you. the so-called "local" TV is so outdated I am surprised they are still doing it. Fans of sport teams are spread all over the world. Why don't they offer some pick and choose packages rather than just the home team, all teams, or no team choices?
     
  5. BamBam

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    Thanks for replying, I understand the $15mil tv and $68mil payroll, what I would like to see is where you are getting the $83mil to add the $15mil tv deal? Where are you getting your info from? Thanks!
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  6. BigBenito

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    You act like OKC didn't buy the 31st pick in the 2010 draft or the 40th pick this year or spend another million to move up a couple slots in this year's 1st. Or send cash to Minnesota for the Martin TPE just this month.
     
  7. Icehouse

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    I just realized that the Sixers received more LT value for Jrue than OKC did for Harden. Couldn't OKC have kept him all year then traded him for Noel and the Pelican's 2014 first (top 5 protected) at the draft? Or some other similar type of deal?
     
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    Okc deserves it. The ownership group decided to leave the 15th largest market in the u.s for the 42nd. They should have foreseen problems like this.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    Nor am I feeling for sorry for them. I'm still mad about how they lied about their intentions to stay in Seattle. So, I'm glad for the financial misfortunes that befall them.
     
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    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9521103/the-nba-midnight-run-part-1
     
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    He's starting from the assumption that they made $30 million in profit. Not sure if that was in the article or he sourced it elsewhere.

    He's plugging for the $83 million in order to generate that $30 million in profit.

    Any extra costs - like the pick purchases, etc. mentioned would only increase the other revenue if the $30 million profit still applies.

    Though it should be noted, $83 vs. $250 is not a fair comparison, as LA's "other revenue" line item is also likely similarly much bigger than the Thunders.
     
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    I sometimes forget where this team originated. What they did to the Seattle fans. Good reminder. Now I have one more reason to want OKC to lose.
     
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    The only thing that I'm sure of is that they received $15mil from tv and they had $68mil payroll. Yes if you add both together it's $83mil,
    but the article only states that they received $15mil from tv, it doesn't say that the money from tv was a profit. If it was a profit then yes
    they had $83mil in revenue. Regardless this is still shy of the $98mil that he's stating....:confused:

    I'm missing some info that's all, I just want to know where the extra revenue is coming from.
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  14. gmoney411

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    If Harden was willing to go to the 76ers. The problem with keeping Harden is that he would be an RFA this offseason and could sign a max deal with any team that had the space. Harden then forces a situation where he either goes to the team he chose or he ends up with OKC on a max deal which is probably what he wanted the most.
     
  15. B-Bob

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    Very true about Laker fans. I think my idea isn't that great, *but* it seems like there are more and more people like myself (in northern cal.) and the_Yoyo (I think he's in LA) who have team allegiance not fitting the local options.

    Dumb, dumb question (for anyone): what does the NBA offer in terms of streaming packages? (I'm not going to google that, no sir, but I may look up via the NBA site.)
     
  16. luckytxn

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    OK

    League pass?
     
  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    From what I can tell, it's just one product, right? "Up to 40 games a week!" I'd like something like netflix, where I get up to, say, two or three a week max, and I agree (for a reduced price) to only choose games related to three different teams (just for example.)

    They could get my business that way. I'd probably do Rockets, Warriors, and one trainwreck team like the Lakers, Bobcats (now Hornets again?), or maybe the Brooklyn Geriatrics.
     
  18. Icehouse

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    Or OKC could just match the max deal and then trade him. My guess is they still would have received more than Lamb and the picks we gave them. Most guys don't turn down max $$ to sign the one year tender. Harden signed a max extension with us immediately when it appeared that we would suck.

    If the rumors of Cleveland offering Portland the #1 pick and another pick for Aldridge are true then there is another potential deal.
     
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    Smh. If only they stayed in Seattle. **** you Clay!!!!!!!
     
  20. rockbox

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    You get every game not on national TV or blocked. There was an option get only the top 3 teams you care about during last season on broadband or mobile. I don't remember the details.
     

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