I have no problem with your take on action sequences, but I'd just suggest that if you don't remember the three scenes StupidMoniker references, that you probably just aren't really a fan of the X-Men concept. That's fine. But it would be like me criticizing romantic comedies as "boring as dog ****". Not my thing. I'm not really a comic book fan, but I loved those three scenes. Incredibly creative, tense, visually riveting, and getting to the heart of human/mutant differences. I'd probably like the bullet train scene too (and hopefully it ends Hollywood's current obsession with the tops of trains).
Xavier also said that to Logan when he first arrived at the X-Mansion in X-Men 1. I don't think Xavier was controlling Yukio. For one thing, it wouldn't take him a year to find him with access to Cerebro.
Could not get over how much I liked the movie. Was leagues above Origins. I thought it was going to terrible but liked it more then Man of Steel. The ending has me even more excited for next summer.
I enjoyed the movie but I could've done with Spoiler more action and less emo drama bull****. Man did those Famke Jenssen scenes really grind my gears.
Spoiler No he actually said that to Wolverine in the first movie when they took on Magneto. Good movie, enjoyed it. Actually liked it better than any of the XMen movies thus far. Thought the blonde was terrible. Stupid character.
Spoiler He didn't lose all his adamantium apparently, just his claws. He would still set off metal detectors. I did have one BIG problem with the movie. Spoiler What was the whole "his healing could be taken" thing about. The movie made it seem like taking his adamantium was the key to his healing? Very bizarre.
Spoiler Yeah, I didn't get that either. What does adamantium have to do with getting sliced clean thru in half by a samurai sword and everything being able to heal back? He seemed waaay too vulnerable in this movie. Also, I thought it regenerated but I guess I was wrong. What was the stuff that came out of his claws instead of adamantium when he killed the old guy? Bone?
Spoiler I think the point was to get to the bone part of his body. Since all of his bones are infused and coated with adamantium, cutting off the adamuntium and getting into something in his bones. Possibly something in his bone marrow that helps with his healing factor. And if that doesn't make sense then......hey look a bear.
Spoiler Yeah. Wolverine has bone claws. The adamantium isn't a mutant power, it was added to his bones. So technically his bone claws are encased in adamantium which means if you cut off his adamantium claws, technically, you're also cutting off his bone claws... unless he regrew them. I don't think he can regrow bones that were detached completely from his body but then again, mutant powers are often contingent on who's writing the story.
I loved that they went in a new direction but ultimately it's just not an epic enough story or all that memorable of a movie. It's a solid installment, but nothing spectacular. The villains in this one are nothing to write home about. A great superhero movie almost requires a great villain. The pieces of the movie do not fit tightly... it's a good concept but executed without the polish it deserved. If they do another Wolverine they really need to let a great director and writer have complete autonomy with the movie. Make a great movie with Wolverine as the main character, don't focus on making everything revolve around Wolverine. Like Dark Knight... Wolverine should be an R rated movie. He's a brutal killer, he's rough around the edges, he doesn't give people second chances. He slits their throat. Let Winding Refn run with this character and have Wolverine emerge from a pile of dead bodies covered in blood. By the way original Wolverine movie is one of the worst movies I have ever seen from beginning to end. I'd give this one a C+. It's better than any of the Iron Man sequels IMO. On par with Thor. Spoiler I wish they'd write the character better. If he cant heal, he dies from metal poisoning... he was snuck up on 3-4 times, once by Magneto, once in the train, once by a bear that startled him, etc... umm, Wolverine has heightened senses, he can smell a bear. Also, Wolverine is fluent in Japanese. Why do they make him out to be an oaf? They could have had people carrying on in Japanese then let Wolverine cut-in and surprise everyone in a humorous way - I've seen Whedon do it in Astonishing X-Men. I'm also a little tired of the Jean stuff, it's so contrived. He knew Jean for how long? They didn't spend more than 10 days together in the movies. And she was in love with Cyclops. But somehow he cant get over her? Meh. I was thinking Marvel Studios should get this thing and do it right but now I think it needs to be completely dark. The spoiler stuff was great. I'm not a fan of the original Singer storyline or some of the cast (Halle Berry, ugh) but I'm excited about Days of the Future Past. It's a story I thought I'd never see told on screen in my lifetime. I'm picturing action scenes that resemble Transformers meets Avengers.
Agree with this entirely although I found the movie to be highly enjoyable. The Japanese thing and the lack of senses really bothered me. I'm not really sure the writers want wolverine to be a mutant. Just the result of a science project.
Thanks for the explanation. I'm not very familiar with all this stuff, just basic knowledge from the other movies. Spoiler What about his organs? How do those work? Didn't he get stabbed by Mariko's father straight through the heart? And he also cut completely through his torso at one point in the fight. Meh, I'm curious but at the same time not gonna pick nits over fine points of a comic book movie. I will continue to accept anything as long as the movie is entertaining, and this one was. :grin:
I'm really, really surprised to see such an overwhelming majority of reviews being positive... I thought the storyline was decent at best, kinda predictable.. and the majority of the movie lacked great action, combined with too much dramatic, drawn-out dialogue that really made the movie drag... I agree the Jean Grey stuff was being over-played... I agree that the movie lacked a great villain (the "viper" was pretty terrible) Even the "comedy" i.e. one-liners.. missed the mark Regarding the action scenes debate.. the bullet train was pretty good, but as someone said, nothing ground-breakingly new there. Actually my vote for the best scene throughout the series would have to be the fight scene from X2: Wolverine vs Lady Deathstrike
Spoiler Well his healing factor is so advanced that he would have no problem healing after any wound, even a stab through the heart. In the comics Sabretooth (same healing factor) recovered after getting stabbed in the brain. As for the clean cut through the body, what's dumb about that is that it was impossible. The man has adamantium bones. The dude had no weapon that could slice adamantium. How could he have cut cleanly through? When he hit spine or rib or pelvic bone, etc. the sword would have stopped.
I said the story shouldn't center on Wolverine, like Dark Knight. I know Dark Knight was PG-13 (everything is PG-13). Wolverine is not Batman. As a lead character Wolverine should be rated R, that's the character I read, that's the character that made him so popular. That's what this franchise needs to be great. To differentiate.
