Lin is one of the worst ball handlers on the team. The majority of his turnovers are due to poor handles. I agree that Parsons is the better ball handler.
I'm pretty aware of the importance of Tyson Chandler to Lin's NY success. But I think our opinions differ when it comes to Asik. His hands will never be good enough to be an excellent PnR partner, but it isn't god awful, either. I don't have the numbers to back it up, but I believe our overall PnR offense ranked quite highly last season. Regardless, I don't think the PnR will be the main strength of a Lin/Asik second unit, though it would still play a part. Rather, it will be the ability to push the pace, better ball distribution, better offensive focus, rebounding, and front court defense. Lin might be better served in the PnR department playing alongside Howard, but the team may be better served having him be the primary ball handler while leading the bench mob. It also still takes advantage of many of Lin's talents, though not all. I do agree with you that a PnR backup big could really help out. Without further moves, Jones may be the starting PF, and I'm not sold on DMo or Smith. Maybe Camby could be the stopgap on that front.
lol I did. Lin TOV% 2.6 advanced 19.5 Harden TOV% 2.2 advanced 13.9 Hardens placed him as the 3rd best among all guards Lin placed him as the 20th best among all guards 20th is still pretty good though. Harden handles the ball more than Lin. Of course one can see if one handles the ball less and TO the ball the same amount then they are less efficient. Lin has the worst TOV% on the team last year by far. If the game is progressing along and a TO could be the key to losing then of course you would bench the one with the highest TOV% or a disaster could result. Now if one can score at the most efficient rate then it could be overlooked to a point. Harden is among the best scorers at the most efficient rate in the NBA. Lin is an inefficient scorer though. If this next year Lin brings a much better efficient rate his TOV% can be overlooked or bring his TOV% down to a better stat.
lol at TOV% the more you shoot, the lower your TOV% is, simple as that how about assist to turnover ratio
ok How about advanced stats? The team is going to look at these numbers. The TOV% is going to show what to expect from the player if he plays more. Harden actually is among the best at getting assists for all SG's in the NBA. The team is also going to look at all facets of effiency. Harden is among the best at scoring with the least amount of attempts. This is what makes him so astounding and the reason he is wanted on the floor as much as possible. Lin is not an efficient scorer so his having a high TOV% makes it where you will put in someone who doesn't. Bev is also better at scoring efficiency on the team besides being a better defender. All these stats show is that Lin should be better coming off the bench and with the 2nd unit and playing against 2nd units. Of course if he starts scoring better efficiently then he needs to play more. I am not the only one that looks at these stats. The people that make the decisions on playing time does also. It is simple. Lin improves his stats he plays more.Right now he is among the worst statistically in most categories.
Ball handling is by far Lin's weakest side to his game, especially when compared to elite 1's like Irving, Paul, Rose, Rondo, Williams etc His passing is probably the best on the team but his handles are shockingly bad for a guard. Beverley, Canaan and Brooks are easily better ball handlers. With Lin you feel he could lose his dribble just about any moment and easily cough the ball up. There's a reason he's next to useless whenever high ball pressure is applied against him.
Yeah, exactly. He obviously hater. We all remember when Lin was in NY and was shooting more often in NY and his TO% was quite low... wait, hold on... Lin's TO% in NY was 21.4%, in Houston last year was 18.8%. Hmm... that's odd. Lin's TO% went DOWN as he shot less. This can't be correct. Let's check Harden's. In year 2 he was a role player and had a TO% of 11.3. Last year busting out, shooting MORE, it was 14.8%. This year, as #1 option, it's 14.9%. Seems like someone's speaking out of his ass.
Harden handles the ball more, therefore his turnovers are likely to be higher. Adjust for that, and Harden's TO is far lower. Steve Nash has had several high TO seasons, does that make him a poor ball handler?
not that you would ever give lin the benefit of the doubt but he didn't fully recover from his knee injuries until all star weekend.
Indeed. Only statements like "Lin is a star and being held back by his agenda-driven coaches and selfish teammates" are grounded in irrefutable facts.
come on, you are using TOV% as your as your argument, and you talking about advanced stats? you are saying that Harden is 3rd best among all guards in TOV%, that mean Harden doesn't have any turnover problem. I just want to point that TOV% is misleading
TOV% IS an advanced stat. And how is TOV% misleading? You have yet to prove that besides "wait that doesn't sound right on paper!".
No I will give him the benefit of a doubt. I believe that conditioning may be a big culprit. Not just Lin but the whole team was not conditioned to play the roles they were asked to do. Even Harden who was maybe the closest to ready was playing about 10-11 minutes more then used to previously. I did notice as the year progressed that the team was performing better. Our horses would tire out. The whole team was also playing on different teams and styles. The pressure on all of them was huge. An 82 game NBA season is grueling as we all know. Lin also came to the Western conference which no matter what anyone says is a lot different and physical game in and game out. All the staff really had to go on was stats and especially the advanced stats to plan on strategy most times. As players and the team plays over time they can use the advanced stats and go by more of a gut feeling and trust the players more. We all know Morey is a stat freak and the whole staff including Mchale has bought in to it. It actually served them well.
