Would you support legislation to make it illegal to get pregnant with out a license?

Look at the models of food and other resource usage. If you're saying that we're destroying rainforests, sure, that's true. But that's one resource.

Climate change is real - it's also self-regulating. If we destroy our climate, it will make conditions harsher, and reduce the world population. Not a fun fact and not an ideal "solution", but it's reality.

I never said it was declining. I said it's now projected to start declining. The growth rate has dropped substantially.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/01/11...-worlds-population-may-actually-be-declining/

Not true. As people get wealthier, they have fewer kids. Europe and the US are examples of that - Many Western European countries have a net negative native population growth, for example. Developing countries are the largest source of population growth, and their rates are dramatically coming down as they see economic changes.

As noted above, those are older models that are being revised.

If what you say is correct, these things will cause population to decline, and thus self-correct. If population surpasses a sustainable equilibrium, it will shrink. In the ugliest of terms, if there's not enough food, then people will starve until there is enough food.

 

Sure, but that's caused by a lack of access, not a lack of supply. We produce far more food than the population can consume

You can fit the entire population of the planet inside Jacksonville, FL city limits, standing room only.

You can fit the entire population of the planet inside Texas with the same population density as Paris, France.

Most industrialized countries are reproducing at below replacement levels. They are literally dying off, the average age is increasing.

 

Everyone, run far away from people talking about planning and controlling your life. Their utopian visions of imposing a better world lead to ideas like forced sterilization and population control measures at the point of a gun.

 

crash -- how old are you? serious question

 

Just asking the question for fun.

And of course I don't feel the same moral dilemma preventing life or killing life that can't really communicate pain or emotional distress in a way that I understand. I mean I also have no problem eating meat from the grocery store, but I would probably be a b**** and be horrified if I had to kill a cow or pig or chicken to eat it.

The other thing we could do to minimize human impact is to regulate eating habits and promote more genetically modified food.

Anyhow, I don't think we should try to control population in amazing places like America. We should be promoting population growth here imo.

 

Good people still come from poverty. In fact, I think some of the most amazing and revolutionary people have come from very adverse circumstances. Hell, the best player in basketball wouldn't be alive right now if we went with this license stuff. I think the real problem you should be more concerned with is creating a better education system. That would solve more of the problems you are concerned with imo.

 

tons of food are wasted in the cosmetic Western food system that prides wasting tons of food on exceedingly copious amounts of meat, and which prides itself on throwing away food with minor defects---

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/15/us-food-summit-foodwaste-idUSBRE82D1E520120315

I don't like this talk about restricting the population or somesuch, but so long as there is such a f**ked up system for dealing with essential resources like food and etc., you can't help but see the discussion pop up.

 

I vote hell no.........the U.S. has tried population control/ eugenics in the past and African people were disproportionally targeted and often sterilized against their will.

No reason to suspect it won't happen again.

 

Commodore has a point, although he might be stretching a bit.
Just like Thomas Malthus was wrong about linear growth, we really do not know the breakthroughs that could increase our resource utilization efficiency in the near future.

 

Step one would be to stop making sex such a taboo in this society. Its ridiculous. Illegality and taboo increase demand and peak curiosity. A well-informed populace will make smarter choices.

 

humanity has always found a way

 

someone should hasten to point out that life isn't just the act of birthing---it's about supporting a full human life throughout.

in which case, humanity has been rather lacking.