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Do you believe Jeremy and Omer "are going to be here"?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jocar, Jul 23, 2013.

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Behind the scenes....

  1. Asik is still being offered.

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  2. Lin is still being offered.

    4.5%
  3. Morey's still making calls and both are actively being shopped.

    49.2%
  4. Morey meant it. Both are officially of the table, and this squad rolls out next season.

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  1. MadMax

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    I feel reasonably certain Morey knows all of that...and that Morey will likely be loyal to someone who has been loyal. For the most part, Morey's a mercenary with assets...but Parsons has done some things for the organization that I'm guessing will be taken into account when it comes time to get paid.
     
  2. knickstorm

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    he's going to get market value regardless. No team is gonna say "ohh we'll pay you extra because you made less than you should've the first 3 years."
     
  3. saleem

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    Sounds realistic.
     
  4. Fighton

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    i would hate for it to come to the point where the market is dictating his contract as a restricted FA. in restricted FA, if it's a player you really want to keep, you ALWAYS end up overpaying. the other team needed to overpay for you to NOT to match, and if you match that means you're overpaying, and that's exactly what happened to lin.

    best case scenario is if he can agree to an extension without going through restricted FA. but with fegan as his agent, that probably won't happen, unless parsons really wants to stay and demand that something get worked so he's not prices out of houston's range.
     
  5. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I honestly think we would sooner waive/trade Lin before letting Parsons go. Parsons right now is a better player IMO than Lin and definitely a better recruiter and media presence. Lin is still another dime a dozen mediocre PG that Morey picked up. Unless Lin does a lot better this season, I see him being dumped.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    What benefit is there to waiving Lin?
     
  7. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I am asserting that if it comes down to needing to make room for Parsons's new contract, I believe that the Rockets would trade/waive Lin first to clear enough funds for Parsons. Waiving however is probably a dumb idea. I initially mentioned it because I had thought his last year was only partially guaranteed. It does not seem the case after further research.
     
  8. rokit

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    I don't think Parsons would have such a successful year if it wasn't for JLin.

    People gotta stop with this "Lin is mediocre" bs, he struggled early on, but his not a mediocre PG.
     
  9. larsv8

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    Parsons success has nothing to do with Lin, that is silly.

    And yes mediocre is exactly what Lin is.
     
  10. rubbertoe

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    Your comments are whats mediocre
     
  11. tomato123

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    you can't spend less money by picking up another mediocre PG. what's your point?

    unless morey thinks that he can use a rookie to win championship.

     
  12. rokit

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    It's not just Lin, Harden too. How many scoring opportunities those two created for Parsons?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com...opp_id=&quarter=&time_remain_quarter=&margin=

    Lets see:

    Top 5 PnR PG according to Morrey?

    Averaged 6 assist while playing alongside another ball dominant guard?

    The only PG in the league to have more than 50% of his assist for the layup/dunk?

    Elite first step / Top 5 PG attacking the rim 437 attempts @ 53,5%?

    Struggled with his shot early on, but improved drastically, was 6th or 7th best shooting PG in the second half of the season?




    Mediocre players don't do these things.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    Im assuming the term mediocre as it stands in the dictionary still rings true here on an internet forum.

    If this is true mediocre means medium, middle, or average.

    Look at the PG position in the NBA and the talent at that position accross the league... almost every team has a star, or near all-star at that position.

    In his 3rd season in the NBA as a starter, its no shame to say that his production was average, in the middle, or mediocre in comparison to every other PG in the NBA.

    Jeremy Lin is not Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, or Steph Curry... which would be considered the top tier of NBA PG's.

    Actually when you really look at the "worst" starting PG's of last year, you come up with names like Kyle Lowry, Brandon Knight, Jennings, Kirk Hinrich, Avery Bradley, etc.....

    Are those players really that bad anyways????

    IMO, calling Lin a mediocre starting PG is almost a complement when you look at how good the PG's are in this league.

    So stop getting so whiny every time someone calls Lin an average or mediocre starter.... they could very well just call him a horrible starting PG if they wanted to give him a title in comparison to the talent that almost every other teams brings out on a nightly basis at the postion.
     
  14. larsv8

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    Yes they do.
     
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    We have enough room for Parson's new contract.
     
  16. JustAGuy

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    Mediocre is generally used to mean below average, topping out at average. If you really mean average, you'd say "Jeremy Lin is an average point guard"... which is what I think he was last season.

    I can see people saying he was a below average point guard too. But using a word that generally means below average and then cherry picking the definition for the word is odd.

    Websters:
    of moderate or low quality

    Dictionary.com
    1) of only ordinary or moderate quality; neither good nor bad
    2) not satisfactory; poor; inferior
     
  17. larsv8

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    Jeremy Lin is a below average starting PG and an average overall PG in the league.

    Mediocre is pretty much the perfect description of him.
     
  18. cml750

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    I really think Asik and Lin could be had for the right price (anyone on the team without the last name Harden or Howard are available for the right price). I believe Asik has the greater chance of having a new team and that they will keep Lin unless they get an offer they can't refuse. Lin was actually a decent PG last year even though his play wasn't at Linsanity levels. With Harden we will never see the Linsanity Lin. That being said, I believe we will keep Lin , unless the offer is too good to pass up, and Asik will be traded because he is unhappy.
     
  19. JustAGuy

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    I'm sure that somewhere on the site we could find people arguing about that.

    I will say that he is worth starting based on potential. If he hasn't improved over the offseason I won't make that argument anymore.
     
  20. rokit

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    That's cool and i get what you're saying, but he does certain things at elite level and he does certain things better than Rose, Curry or Westbrook and while those things may not be interesting to the media or an average NBA fan, it doesn't mean they are not important for the success of the team. So when people say stuff like "Lin is still another dime a dozen mediocre PG that Morey picked up." i don't think that's fair, i don't think he's as easily replaceable as some would suggest.
     

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