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J.J. Redick's Abortion Contract

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. Granville

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    JJ justs want's to get things paper so that she's got clean title to her vag in case he Redicks her later
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    your logic has regressed over the years, Sam. Have you gone to the in-house legal team and lost any kind of edge you once had?

    1. The decision to have a baby starts when you have sex in a manner that results in having a baby
    2. There are plenty of adoption options for women who don't want to provide a "post-delivery" care
    3. Is it stupid to force women to keep a 1 year old they don't want? What about a toddler?
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Why does it have to be commensurate? Does someone who lives in the country get the same value out of the 610 loop that someone that lives in Houston? Does omeone that dies at 50 get the same value out of social security than omeone who lives to 70? How stupid a concept that taxes have to be commensurate? Seriously? Where does this nonsense come from?

    That's not my argument, it's yours.

    Oh now it's innocent life? Life isn't precious, it's now innocent life that is precious but since Christians believe humans are inherently sinful then there is no innocent life now is there? Always the catch 22's with you guys.
     
  4. Brandyon

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    Ideally, we won't need abortion after the mandatory sterilizations catch on!
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    And remember folks the responsibility to protect "innocent" life ends once they leave the uterus. After that fair game, you reap what you sow b****es. Maybe some charity will take mercy on you- but the public's interest is over. Call it stupid - which it is just don't call it hypocrisy. Cause it ain't


    If you think this is parody/satirical- it definitely should be. Unfortunately it is the stated position of one of our 2 political parties. We are broken because the GOP is broken, and the system allows them to remain so.
     
  6. bigtexxx

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    College students sign petition to legalize FOURTH TRIMESTER abortions. e.g., after the baby is born. This just goes to show how stupid some people are by clinging to their "it's a woman's body, she should be able to choose" BS

    http://youtu.be/4v8--9R0I2Q
     
  7. chrispbrown

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    1. Plenty of people take appropriate measures to avoid an unwanted pregnancy when having sex. With all the methods there still isn't a 100% guarantee. Also, people make mistakes, bad decisions that lead to unwanted pregnancies. They deserve a chance to avoid the mistake.

    2. Sure, if you must fore a woman to endure the entire 9 months of pregnancy, pain of birth, and risk any complications from birth...including death of the mother and child.

    3. It is ABSOLUTELY stupid to force a woman to keep a child she doesn't want. Some people are completely unfit for raising a kid. People throw babies in dumpsters, leave them in cars, and bring them up with minimal funds in a terrible environment. If a woman doesn't want a kid, she should be forced to give the child up for adoption before any harm is done.
     
  8. Cold Hard

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    Redick could have simply gotten a vasectomy if he was so worried about this. True, it's their business, but still...the guy is vile, has zero respect for women, and is an idiot for getting involved with this particular woman in the first place since she's pretty messed up herself.
     
  9. Commodore

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    I've never been impressed by these sort of stunts. The power of suggestion is real and you can get people to say/do stupid things in the moment that they wouldn't normally do of their own initiative.
     
  10. Commodore

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    sadly this is true legally

    would that we made the killing of a child all of our business
     
  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Do you really mean what you said with regards to your last sentence? They deserve a chance to avoid the mistake (i.e. abort the life they created)? Deserve?

    Unless it is medically impossible, everytime a male and female engage in intercourse, a baby may be made, regardless of precautions. If the two people are not willing to accept the responsibility of raising the child their act may create, then they should not participate in that act.
     
  12. chrispbrown

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    Yes I do mean they deserve an option and abortion is one of them. While the embryo, fetus or whatever is "alive", it is only alive because it is a part of the mother. With all the modern medicine we have no child has survived birth before 20 weeks. That is with the super unnatural help of incubation, breathing devices, medicine, ect. Debating the life thing is pointless because if you had different views it you never change so we can just drop that.

    You are right about sex, but you have to be kidding yourself if think this is how people go about having sex. I am by no way promiscuous or unsafe having sex. When I have a girl over I'm not getting naked looking her in the eye and saying ok let's do this, but let me ask you, "are you ready to have a baby if it happens? Because if not you need to go home!" I don't think anyone thinks that way.
     
  13. juicystream

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    1. Not having sex... If you can't live with the 0.1% chance of failure, I recommend not having the relations.

    2. That part is difficult. Unfortunately we don't have any alternatives, yet. Birth doesn't have to hurt at all. Risk of death of the child doesn't seem to matter when discussing abortion. Mother's health is a real concern.

    In this case, JJ seems to be wanting the abortion. Hard to say what the girl wants other than maybe money. Weird all the way around. Disgusting human beings, IMO.
     
  14. NotInMyHouse

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    Also super unnatural is forcefully removing a baby from the womb and tossing it in the dumpster.
     
  15. chrispbrown

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    Yes and I agree, but You are missing my point. I say it requires unnatural modern day procedures to keep the baby alive as evidence that to baby is truly not living at that point, it is an extension of the mother.
     
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    Yes, in an ideal world people would behave that way, but we know that will never be the case. Frankly, I really wouldn't want that to be the case either...

    My bottom line is people are entitled to their opinion. I support abortion, because I think it helps prevent unwilling and unfit parents from raising children. I also think abortion should be a last resort and is a very sad thing. There are plenty of studies showing the decline of crime and poverty since the legalization of abortion in the USA. THROW ALL THIS OUT. Back to the opinion, the way I see it is that everyone has the right to their opinion on weather an abortion is moral, fair, right, whatever word you choose. Be keeping abortions legal, you allow everyone to have an opinion. No one is forcing people to get an abortion.

    Maybe instead of taking away abortions, and effectively some peoples choice, we can work to be a better culture that chooses not to have abortions. We can have a more sexually educated culture, a more parent ready culture.
     
  17. juicystream

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    We should, but we usually have our priorities in the wrong place.
     
  18. wizkid83

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    Are these things appropriately taught in our schools? Like actual sex ed? Or are we still promoting abstinence only education in middle schools?
     
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    Let me tell you a fictional story I just made up that is a real story to some people that grow in our very own United States.

    Tina is an infant child that is the daughter to a twelve and thirteen year old boy and girl. The twelve year old is Elena. She is obese and is already two grades behind in class. She's a sixth grader that should be in 8th grade right now. She grew up in a poor household. She's the oldest in a family of three.

    Tina's dad is thirteen. His name is Chris. He's the youngest in a family of three. That said his parents work long hours and are never home. They work long hours trying to put food on the table with barely enough time to unwind much less be as good of parents as perhaps they would like. Chris is a horny thirteen year old that just started going through puberty and his dad was never around to explain to him the wonder and safety of masturbation. So he sleeps with a Elena in his class. It lasted all of thirty seconds because both of these kids suck at sex. Elena is disappointed that sex was so meh but she's got a kid in her belly. She didn't even orgasm. The dad is scared and confused. He just wanted to know what sex felt like. He didn't think having sex one time would actually get a girl pregnant but it did. 9 months later, they're both parents.

    Elena is going to be held back a third year. Tina was born at the end of the Spring semester and Elena wasn't able to complete all her necessary credits. Her already pitiful self esteem is even lower. Chris's self esteem is ****. He got an ugly twelve year old pregnant that he didn't even want his friends to know he slept with. Chris tries to go to school but is ridiculed by his "friends" for his mistake. Chris's parents hate their son. They now have to help raise a fourth kid. Elena's parents do their best but are unable.

    Elena and Chris drop out after a few years of struggling as parents and as students. One works minimum wage at Subway. The other minimum wage at McDonald's. Neither is given health insurance at their work.

    Tina is stuck going to a daycare without proper vaccinations or medical prevention treatment. Tina is routinely sick and medical bills swamp this teenage couple over a 30 second mistake.

    These are two parents trying to make the best of their situation. You call that living? Now imagine, two parents that don't give a crap about their partner or their child.

    I wish people looked at providing government assistance or charitable assistance to the poor and needy as a criminal preventative measure. It's an opportunity to a better chance at life for people just trying to get by. So be Pro-Life if you want. Just really mean it if you are. Don't cut programs that help the needy. In the end your pro-life shenanigans may cost you your life if you don't give that life a reason to life beyond criminal activity to survive. That baby will grow up to be an adult and may break in your home and you may not have your weapon ready to strike down that imbecile trying to survive. That imbecile may be carrying too and it may get the first shot on you instead. Your proud holier than that imbecile attitude bit you in the ass because you didn't want to help that imbecile when it was a helpless kid. Go you.
     
  20. crash5179

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    Certainly you don't advocate birth control!? A single sperm is the beginning of a child! It is a living thing from where we all begin. You F'n murderer! Abstain if your not willing to put the life of a child before your own. Abstain if your to F'n lazy raise a child.
     

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