Free Shotguns for any Houstonians living in Oak Forest

isnt it up and coming in parts? new homes goin up.. high value stuff too

 

i think the publicity is the biggest key. Most break ins happen during the day when people are at work.

 

This is a funny post.

I'm pretty sure the point of this program isn't stock the neighborhood with vintage old west collectors items and muskets. Lol

That wouldn't be a serious complaint even if you did live in Oak Forest. You're a funny guy FranchiseBlade.

 

So where does Coplen live? I've yet to see anyone respond to that. Does he actually live in the neighborhood he's so eager to arm?

 

Yep. Investor bought my Grandma's house, tore it down and is building a $300K house in its place.

Still didn't help an 83 year old lady feel safe when she hears her neighborhood called out on the news every day, and sees the police cars and helicopters always circling the block.

She now feels much safer in a retirement community north of Austin where the lack of humidity and safer environment has enabled her to walk outside in the morning without the fear of being robbed.

 

For some reason, I will probably start thinking of you as an amateur hockey player who just took up golf.

 

I doubt it, however, the organization he founded is providing guns to more people than just those that live in Oak Forest.

Why would it matter where the head of the organization that is doing this lives?

Here is their mission statement:

"The Armed Citizen Project is dedicated to facilitating the arming of law abiding citizens, and analyzing the relationship between increased firearm availability and rates. We are choosing mid-high crime neighborhoods in cities across America, and offering defensive weapons to citizens that can pass a background check, and that will take our safety, legal, and tactical training. The data that we collect will be used in the completion of a policy study that will measure the deterrent effects of firearms on crime."

 

I don't suppose that is The Summit at Lakeway?

 

I demand he give out AKs. Shotguns have terrible range, reload time, and kickback. You miss and they other guy is sure to get you.

 

LOL what? Why?

Nope. She's up in Cedar Park.

 

You're right, but it should be! I would love it.

 

We just moved my mom into The Summit.

 

So much wrong with this post....

#1 They are not just "paranoid wasps", there have been quite a few home invasions.

#2 Using your logic that it will just "defer crime to neighboring areas", then why bother increasing area police patrols, locking your doors, etc... it just makes criminals victimize neighboring area.

#3 Arming people with "little investment"? Uhh AGAIN he is not just handing these guns out, he is requiring a higher level of training than the LAW requires. If anything, these people are MORE invested.

#4 "It is a low income area so the guns obviously won't be secured"? Really, so poor people in general are irresponsible gun owners? They don't properly secure or protect their firearms? Are there any other stereotypes you wish to pass off as fact? Maybe blacks steal or Jews are cheap or whites are oppressive?

 

I don't know where he lives, but why is is relevant?

 

Because I'm sure criminals will wait on the police/neighborhood watch. And even if the neighborhood watch showed up, I'm guessing an armed criminal would laugh at a bunch of unarmed fat old people thinking that they're securing anything. Your point of view is really pretty naive.

 

The point of increased police presence and neighborhood watches is to prevent and deter crime, not stop it in action. Beyond that, it's a hell of lot safer, more responsible, and practical than distributing firearms. But hey, let's misrepresent someone's argument to push our agenda instead of actually trying to solve the problem, amirite?

 

Nope, they're paranoid wasps. I find it quite funny. If you're in Garden Oaks, lock that ish up, doe.

Because it's safer,. more effective, and more practical.

Investment, as in, money. Time. And so on. These people are being spoon fed weapons. The training is great (lots of orgs offer free training, not just these guys), but reducing the barrier between people and guns tends to create more irresponsible gun owners. Same with most of everything.

Last time I checked, gun safes are pretty expensive. Doesn't take a genius to deduce that low income owners are going to be less likely and able to secure their weapons properly.

 

Hope she likes it as much as my Grandma likes her new place.

 

If we're looking at it from a deterrent stand-point, I'd say that knowing a person has a loaded shotgun inside the house you're breaking into is a much larger deterrent than the threat of the police showing up in 15 minutes once they're alerted of crime. Besides, I'm of the opinion that the police are more dangerous than an armed citizenry. I'm sure the number of victims of the increasingly violent and military style police are far greater than the victims of accidental discharges and the like.

 

An increased police presence means the wait time isn't 15 minutes. This is about proaction, not reaction. I think the threat of being caught (increased police presence + neighborhood watches) after the fact is a better deterrent than some shotguns. But neither of us are career criminals, so that's hard to say. In either instance, it's hard to argue that gun distribution is safer, more practical, and more effective than teaching people the basics and collaborating as a community with and without law enforcement.

Well, then it's hard to take you seriously. Police aren't perfect, but they're trained for crisis response, investigation, neutralizing threats, etc. Give me the trained, career professionals over the layman, please.

There's more to guns being a bad idea for crime prevention than just accidental discharges. But even so, I think the odds of the police kicking in your door and putting a cap in the arse of the person who summoned them are a lot less than what you imagine.