1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Lin fans: Why the opposition to 6th man?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LelWestbrick, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. luckytxn

    luckytxn Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    783
    Likes Received:
    17
    Yes

    And we have very little good perimeter defenders.
     
  2. luckytxn

    luckytxn Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    783
    Likes Received:
    17
    Lol

    You making irrelevant posts is supposed to resonate well?
     
  3. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52
    Just asking, in no way trolling BEV. How does patrick beverly pick up fouls in a flash and get fouled out? on perimeter defense?
     
  4. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,161
    Likes Received:
    3,361
    Are you not?

    And if you are not, why do propose that it's just as logical to propose James Harden to be the Rockets sixth man rather than Lin?
     
  5. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52
    the prestige of being a starter , who cares if we win.
    I think he is proposing , Lin/Dwight Harden/Asik
     
  6. raskol

    raskol Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,932
    Likes Received:
    162
    I wasn't actually suggesting that Harden should be our sixth man. I wasn't saying it was just as logical. Didn't you see the "lol" right after I said that.
    What I said and have always felt is that there's nothing wrong with Lin being suggested as a 6th man, but that I personally believe that it is not the right choice for all of the reasons mentioned on this thread. And I'm not saying it's you, but I find it distasteful that many (not all) of the Lin-as-6th-man advocates have called Lin trash, a bench player, or that he should be traded, that Bev is better than him, and have clearly hated his game and are now saying.."yeah, he would be great as a 6th man. He'd do so well. Bev should start.."

    As everyone has already has already said a dozen times, why bring him off the bench if staggering would do the same thing. And who decided that Lin and Harden couldn't get along, even though there were clearly signs of them doing well together. And Lin does not have the scorer's mentality but rather is a pnr pg (as I was throughout school), and would be perfect with Dwight even with Harden out there.

    You know what, straight up, it sounds like a boss giving someone a demotion but saying that it's actually good for them. That it's better for them. It's condescending and transparent. Some on the other hand, truly mean it, that Lin being a 6th man is for strategy, and to them I have nothing but love as a Rockets fan even if we disagree for the reasons above.
     
  7. ttdestroyer

    ttdestroyer Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    9
  8. Merovingian

    Merovingian Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2012
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    7
    Mid-range jumper? Probably because they didn't practice it? or other reasons? many things

    Anyway next season Harden will still dominate the ball but not that much. And there will be training camp and adjustments, they will add plays for other players and reduce that sticky ball. You can bet it will be different.
     
  9. hoopstar39

    hoopstar39 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    229
    Likes Received:
    3
    You start Beverly to get into the opposing point guards head by him hounding them defensively. In crunch time...if we need D put in Beverly, if we need offense put in Lin, if we need shooting go with the hot-hand.
     
  10. cw3k

    cw3k Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2012
    Messages:
    728
    Likes Received:
    25
    Because he is playing according to the NBA rules of the Jordan era, but unfortunately, he is playing in the LBJ/CP3 sissy league.
     
  11. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52
    LOL, he said this today? doesn't make sense
     
  12. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52
    Come on can we break it down and find the reasons for this?
     
  13. AvgJoe

    AvgJoe Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    3,637
    Likes Received:
    393
    Did you actually look at his shot chart to reach this conclusion?
     
  14. ptealixpaint

    ptealixpaint Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    213
    Likes Received:
    8
    Another way of putting it is:

    "To maximize the efficiency and skillset of our team, Jeremy Lin should play every minute James harden is not on the court, plus some side by side to round out his minutes"
     
  15. lakersuck

    lakersuck Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2010
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    16
    It seems like all the arguments against having Lin as a sixth man are sentimental and not basketball based in nature. It's basically just staggering Lin and Harden's minutes but having Lin not start so that he's fresh during Harden's first break. Waste of energy having both of them out there at the beginning.
     
  16. PeppermintCandy

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Messages:
    4,453
    Likes Received:
    2,093
    I like the idea of having Lin coming of the bench. He and Asik would instantly give us one of the top second units in the league.

    I could see Lin in a Lowry role when Lowry used to come off the bench: averaging 20-25 minutes but going at breakneck speed because there was no need to hold back. When Lowry led the bench mob, they crushed opposing second units, and Lin and Asik could do the same IMO. That playing style would also best allow Lin to recapture the "Linsanity" mode of play.

    Then again, Lowry made it clear back then he didn't expect to play the "energy guy" for the rest of his career, and he of course took over the starting spot. Lin may have the same attitude and see such a move as a demotion rather than a maximizing of his talents.
     
  17. Type Raba

    Type Raba Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    6
    linsanity doesnt happen without tyson chandler. so lin needs to play with howard not asik. imo there will be instant chemistry between them because lin likes feeding bigs, and dwight likes being fed.
     
  18. kwongadong

    kwongadong Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2002
    Messages:
    560
    Likes Received:
    18
    Yup, and there were plenty here clamoring for him to start...
     
  19. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52
    ???????
     
  20. Knickskiller

    Knickskiller Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,953
    Likes Received:
    52
    lets see how this harden howard combo works. if it flunks . lin/howard is worth a try.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now