Liberal holds a racist sign at pro-Zimmerman protest to make them look like racist

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Australia?

Do you have anything closer to home? Wow you are reaching.

 

I understood your argument.

I've heard it countless times...I simply see it for what it is.

Its like a kid who gets caught doing something bad and then states that he saw his friend doing it too. The friend wasn't right, however stating that he wasn't the only one doing it doesn't excuse the first child and isn't relevant to his situation.

 

amaru you need to change your mindset bro. very self-defeating

just trying to help

 

How is that reaching....I said my people are being exploited. I'm an African and we are a global people. I'm beyond the point of limiting my heritage to pre-defined social constructs.

However if you are looking for something closer to the U.S. (which is what I assume you mean by home)...the refer back to the link I posted to bigtexx.

In addition to that, I will add "sharecropping" which was basically "a step above" slavery in this country. After emancipation....as far as we can tell ( and this lack of knowledge is a product of our exploitation) my paternal grandfather and great-grandfather were both share croppers. My great-grandfather was born a slave and thus didn't have access to formal education. He was illiterate. Unfortunately...he spent his life in debt because he could never seem to "pay back" the land owner whose land he was working.

The reality was, the land owner was making him sign bogus contracts knowing that he was illiterate and that the prospects for newly emancipated ex-slaves were slim.

 

I doubt you know enough about me or my mindset to call it "self-defeating"

But I'll humor you........why Bigtexx...why is my mindset "self-defeating"?

 

Like Raven said, I think you missed his point.

You throw around terms like right, white people, Europeans, and others around too casually. There is no wrong or right in world politics and history. No god has intervened to help the weak or victimless from oppressors in a way we want to understand. It's been a pure, brutal, and Darwinian existence under economic movements like mercantilism and capitalism.

The Europeans used their technological and political superiority to overwhelm and use your ancestors as commodities for their own purposes. The Arabs did it before them, and others did it before the Arabs. In fact, Europeans enslaved each other, as did other societies. Domination is a fact of life and evolution. It's as if your house was destroyed in a hurricane, and now you keep bemoaning the weather.

You have a genuine grievance. Perhaps your house was a magnificent mansion, and all these people who tell you "quit whining" had petty shacks. Easy for them to say stop complaining. There are no pissing matches between which people got screwed over the worst. Even if you win, you can't enforce proper restitution. To believe otherwise is failing to understand sociology, psychology, history, and awareness of how others perceive/resent you.

Rather than mistrust white people like you do, instead you should mistrust the beast inside all humans. The one that turns us into cruel monsters and against one another. That is evil designed by the Creator to make us lose our humanity and hope. Embittered African Americans need to write off their debts and embrace the other humans on this planet. They need to love the other humans and educate themselves. These two are all that's needed along with true leadership to prevent the demon within from emerging.

Although other people brought your ancestors down into the ditch, you and the their descendants have the power to climb out of it.

 

the constant pity party and lack of optimism

 

<You throw around terms like right, white people, Europeans, and others around too casually.>

I disagree

<There is no wrong or right in world politics and history.>

See above

<No god has intervened to help the weak or victimless from oppressors in a way we want to understand.>

No surprise there, I doubt that there is a "god" and even if there is one, I think it's pretty clear that this being doesn't care about suffering (another topic

<It's been a pure, brutal, and Darwinian existence under economic movements like mercantilism and capitalism.>

I do agree that the motivation for the Trans-Atlantic slave trade and the invasion ("colonization") of Africa was economic.

<The Europeans used their technological and political superiority to overwhelm and use your ancestors as commodities for their own purposes. >

Of course

<The Arabs did it before them, and others did it before the Arabs.>

Of course

<In fact, Europeans enslaved each other, as did other societies>

Of course

<It's as if your house was destroyed in a hurricane, and now you keep bemoaning the weather. >

Terrible analogy

< Even if you win, you can't enforce proper restitution. To believe otherwise is failing to understand sociology, psychology, history, and awareness of how others perceive/resent you.>

Not sure what your getting at here.....We aren't playing any games.

<Rather than mistrust white people like you do, instead you should mistrust the beast inside all humans.>

I don't trust anybody completely.....however I have to be realistic. I live in an European society and in a world that is the result of European hegemony. Europeans control most of the world's resources and for the most part attempt to define how the rest of us live. It is clear to me that, consciously or subconsciously, that most Europeans do not REALLY see non-europeans as been completely equal to them as humans in most cases. This is the world we have to live in and in order to change it we have to realize that the problem exists.

<That is evil designed by the Creator to make us lose our humanity and hope.>

I don't believe there is a "creator", I have yet to see any evidence of one (another topic.)

<Embittered African Americans need to write off their debts and embrace the other humans on this planet>

What "debts" do Africans have to write off to the world? And why must they be the ones to actively "embrace" other humans on the planet. We have the right to live life on our own terms...even if that goes against what you believe or what makes you comfortable.

<They need to love the other humans and educate themselves.>

I agree with the "educate themselves" part. Why must we "love" the other humans? How about they respect 1) Our right to exist 2) Our right to be who we are 3) Our right to peace and safety. Let's start there.

<Although other people brought your ancestors down into the ditch, you and the their descendants have the power to climb out of it.>

Of course....we can and we will.

 

You are wrong on both counts.

 

My reply to you didn't come out the way I wanted. I can break it down specifically if there is any confusion.

 

I don't think anyone denies that people are exploiting Africa. I could be wrong. But there was slavery, then there was colonization, and there's always been people competing to take advantage of Africa's resources right now.

I think pointing that out isn't someone making an excuse. I think it's odd that at least most of us can agree on that, yet people seem to be lashing out at Amaru rather than those that are doing the far worse behavior and causing far more damage.

I think we should all be able to agree that pointing out injustices, unfair treatment, and exploitation isn't a bad thing, nor is it making excuses. There is nothing wrong with pointing out injustices, and complaining about them loudly and bitterly. They are injustices and should be called out and complained about. I think when people target those that complain about the injustices it's putting the blame in the wrong place.

 

Racism from Blacks towards Whites stem from prior grievances.
Racism from Whites towards Blacks stem from the attitude of a "superior race".
Neither should be justified but one does seem more dickish.

 

Um, you said up until today. How about giving some examples in the 21st century of your people being exploited in these United States?

 

The prison system is the easiest example. Once again....that information is on the 1st page.

Profits made from the criminalization of African people.

 

Just as a side note. I work as a server in the Austin area the 5 black people I work with along with every other server. Avoid black tables if at all possible. So hopefully while you are teaching your kids about the sad state of the world. You can also teach them how to be generous and not come into a place and leave horrible and awful tips. And then turn around and say " see when we go out to eat we get crappy service"

I just do not understand it. Every other race will tip but black people no. It is either one of two things they are too dumb and ignorant and do not know to tip. Or they are just plain greedy and are not generous. Those are cold facts that anyone that is a server or bartender will tell you.

Would like to point out that I have of course served black people that have tipped and even the rare occasion 20% or more.

 

How do poor people tip?

 

It's so easy to identify the racist posters in this thread. They try to hide it through various wording and passive-aggressive responses.

They won't recognize that Trayvon's demise is just as much about race as it is about murder. Yes, murder.

Each political party has dirty hands. No one is disputing that. But that's not what this is about. It's just another race-baiting thread that shows how some posters secretly despise minorities, and in turn, blame the myth of the liberal media for all that is wrong in the world.

 

No one got murdered. Get over yourself.

 

Why are you making me agree with Bigtexxx???? I thought it would never happen that I would agree with Bigtexx, but you are so over the top that i actually agree with him.

You are saying that you do not trust white people in general. So basically you are saying white people are al the same (naybe with some small exceptions), and they are evil.

How is that different from the stupid racists who believe all black people are not to be trusted and are criminal, or that all arabs are terrorists? You judge a person on their skin color.

 

Correct. It isn't different...it's racist.