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Do you believe Jeremy and Omer "are going to be here"?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jocar, Jul 23, 2013.

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Behind the scenes....

  1. Asik is still being offered.

    17.1%
  2. Lin is still being offered.

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  3. Morey's still making calls and both are actively being shopped.

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  4. Morey meant it. Both are officially of the table, and this squad rolls out next season.

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  1. Spiegel

    Spiegel Member

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    With the Oden rumor makes me think Asik is on his last few months as a Rocket.
     
  2. cw3k

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    Lin and Asik both will be gone, even if Rockets finished their contracts. Parson's rookie contract ends the same time as Lin and Asik, and Parson will not be cheat. Unless Les keeps his words that money is not an issue, they will be traded.
     
  3. cw3k

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    *cheap

    where is the edit option?!?!?
     
  4. kwongadong

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    Parsons is probably in the $5M to $7M per year range assuming his performance over the next two years doesn't dip. That's not cheap, but hardly the type of money that will require getting rid of both Lin and Asik.
     
  5. squidi141

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    yes, i believe both of them will be here
     
  6. Fullcourt

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    You think we can justify paying Parsons less than Lin?
     
  7. kwongadong

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    Unfortunately for Parsons, his skills/production is easily replaceable in free agency. He's a good role player, and you don't pay role players $10MM+ per year.
     
  8. lucnguye92

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    We're going to let the market dictate CP25's contract since he's going to be restricted(I'm shooting in the dark here). With the way this team is built, it's going to look like a lower production in stats for him and all of our other players to make room for H&H. If it does turn out like that favorably, a team might offer him less, therefore we'll sign him for less.
     
  9. conquistador#11

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    i'll keep saying it...do you guys know what league you're watching. you put up the numbers parsons has, you'll have the russian owner offering parsons 10 million, his own line of jeans and his wife. Parsons is going to get PAID>
     
  10. lucnguye92

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    The league is renowned for overpaying for solid SF. I agree with this post. I will also say, that the owner has one lucky wife.
     
  11. BackNthDay

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    There is no way Parson accepts less that what Lin and Asik are getting per year and that's $8 mln. Now it's on Dwight and Harden to convince Parson in 2 years. Quick question, who will be available to replace Parson, which may give the Rockets some negotiating power. However, if the Rockets go to the WCF and NBA finals then they will pay him more to keep chemistry.
     
  12. kwongadong

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    So, just because we signed Lin to a bad contract means we need to sign Parsons to a bad contract?
     
  13. SexyButIgnorant

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    No, but you better believe Parsons is gonna use that as a negotiation tactic. Don't assume that the Rockets are the only ones that have say in how much they'll offer him.
     
  14. kwongadong

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    You're right. But the Rockets can always walk away, and Parsons can always go to another team for more money.

    I'm just saying, if Parsons produces at $10MM per year, by all means pay the guy. But don't pay him $10MM if you can replace him for $5MM.
     
  15. AvgJoe

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    Parsons' worth $10 mil, because that is what the market is. We can argue how the league overpays SF, but Parsons at league's standard, will get his $10 mil. If Batum can get $11 mil, Parson can get $10 mil. One thing you are miscounting is he still has room to grow. He's been steadily improve his first 2 seasons in the league. No reason he can't improve more in his 3rd year. Best chance for Morey is to not pick up his 4th year option, and let him go in market as RFA, and not many teams will try to lure him away with high price, we may get him around $9mil, considering we are doing well this coming playoff.
     
  16. LandryFields

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    some of you guys are in for a huge surprise when he becomes a FA...

    and what you're not considering is that for the first 3 years of his career he's been grossly underpaid which is absolutely going to become a factor in how he approaches his next contract.
     
  17. larsv8

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    Now that most of the major free agents are signed and rosters are mostly set, the odds that Asik and Lin remain on the roster are pretty high in my opinion. All signs point to a third star at the PF being the next step for Morey.

    Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge are the obvious names which come to mind and I would be shocked if we are not in position to pursue them in free agency in 2015. As of now we have only Howard and Harden under contract for 2015, with Parsons due a raise. Using Parsons Bird rights and existing low salary, his cap hold will allow us one more opportunity to have near max cap space before Morey will run out of tricks to keep us far under the cap.

    This means that we will not use the MLE next year and we will not move Asik or Lin for guys on contracts longer than 2 years. Two hot topic names around here are Ryan Anderson and Ersan Ilyasova. While both seem to be perfect fits on this team, I predict neither will be traded for as they both would take us out of contention for Love or Aldridge, due to three years remaining on their respective contracts.

    The ONLY reasonable move I could see is a move for Milsap who is a clear fit, upgrade, and has a favorable contract length (two years). I am not sure however if moving Asik for Milsap helps us on the court, which is what Atlanta would demand. If we could find a way to move Lin for Milsap instead, that is a no brainer, but Lin just doesn't have the value around the league.

    Aside from the slim Milsap possibility (more likely if we get a legit backup C to replace Asik), I personally believe Lin and Asik will play out their contracts here.
     
  18. D-rock

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    How long is Josh Smith's contract with Detroit?
     
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    Signals matter.

    It sends a very wishy-washy signal to free agents for the Rockets to, publicly state they shouldn't have let Lin go, signing him to a healthy contract in a high-stakes face-off with the Knicks. If they were to, now, trade him after bringing him back under the premise of "We made a mistake letting him go," it would make the organization look foolish, as well as having to take with a grain of salt their assessment of talent.

    Is Lin good? Why let him go? If he's good enough to bring back in a game of "chicken" with the Knicks, he must be worth keeping. No? No, we need to trade him, negating both the admission of an earlier mistake and the assessment of his talent in bringing him back. :confused: The only argument in defense of trading him would be "scenarios change." And as stated before, a change of heart on Howard's part. Now he looks wishy-wasy too? (O.K. He may have already broken that barrier. But does he want to feed that fire?) If a trade of Lin or Asik happened, it would not be a good start for the Howard era. Asik and Lin will be here, unless there is some foolishness afoot.
     

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