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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. JayGoogle

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    How did police brutality impact NWA? Art imitates life.

    If you completely get rid of rap how would that solve anything? Someone please explain how getting rid of rap solves anything?

    All that will happen is another form of music talking about the SAME thing will pop up.
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    You are dodging because you cannot answer my question.

    It's clear that rap's messages are a negative impact. Hey I'm just trying to help -- if blacks want to continue to hold themselves down by the lessons they learn from rap music, then so be it. Just don't come crying for food stamps when nobody hires them since they can't speak properly or have a long criminal record. TIA
     
  3. dandorotik

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    Oh, it definitely helps them, for sure. No need to hide these things from youth. Well, except that you do have warning stickers on CDs with profane lyrics.

    The more you try to hide things from youth, the more they want to know about it.

    Heck, Texas treats adults like adolescents. No casinos, dry countries, blue laws (former). New Yorkers laugh their a**es off at stuff like where you can sell liquor, how late clubs can stay open, etc. Funny how conservatives in Texas cry about the big, bad federal government controlling their lives when their state is just as much, if not more guilty of the same.

    Lubbock, TX where I live particularly sucks. Heck, we were dry until 2 years ago. And all the conservatives were crying about how DWIs, PIs, etc. would rise once the county became wet. Guess what? They went down. Pathetic Texas conservatives.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    What about the lessons that "whites" learn from AC-DC? Shoot to Thrill? Hells Bells? TNT? Let's Get It Up? Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap? Do you know what these songs are about? BTW, my white son listens to Nas, Dr. Dre, etc. Straight A student who just got accepted to the University of South Carolina. In 18 years, he got in trouble once- for skipping one class. Should I have taken away his CDs that he's been listening to since 16?

    You can answer my AC-DC question any time. We're all waiting.
     
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  5. Blake

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    It all makes sense now. NWA is why Trayvon is no longer with us.

    dots connected

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  6. Lil Pun

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    Lol! It's almost like some people think that South Central L.A. before N.W.A. was full of happy people with flowery meadows and rainbow skies and rivers made of chocolate where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles.

    The fact is crime, especially violent crime, has decreased since those times even in Compton where N.W.A. was based http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/03/23/straight-into-compton.html while rap has continually gotten more popular, not less. Hmmm.....
     
  7. dandorotik

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    The messages that the leaders of Christian religions have passed on to their congregations throughout the years have influenced a great deal more killings than anything rap has ever done.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    You've got a long history yourself of not answering questions
     
  9. JayGoogle

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    I'm dodging because your question is r****ded quite frankly.

    Rap isn't the only form of art that is violent and sends out a bad message. It's an entire genre of music and about half of it is harmless party music. So good luck with your war on rap, make sure you also have a war on rock music as well.
     
  10. DAROckets

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    A lot of things in popular culture can and does have a negative effect on all youth .

    The bigger issue is when parents fail to filter out things that can impact a young developing mind . Children need strong role models to guide them . To many people just leave their kids in front of the tv or buy them whatever games they ask for . Parents of all children need to be more aware of what their kids are being exposed to .
     
  11. Lil Pun

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    I can agree with this, definitely.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    It's silly that some people want to target things like rap. It's a waste of time for real issues and has more to do with a section of America that wants everyone to conform to their ideas.

    Yep, back then when NWA was the thing, South Central was what Chicago is now. Eventually they have cleaned those streets thanks to an effort by local police.

    If anything rap helped get out the message of what was happening there lol...
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    I don't approve of all rock music, either. Music is almost as bad as the media in controlling people's opinions and emotions.

    Glad you agree with me.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Let me ask you this -- Did Country's music like Johnny Cash singing about shooting men just to watch them die and going to prison help or hurt white youth?
     
  15. JayGoogle

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    Finally something we can agree on.

    I've said it so many times, parenting is the bigger issue. I always feel the biggest issue with urban youth is the lack of real parenting.
     
  16. dandorotik

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    Of course. You know, something I knew but truly realized- money has a lot to do with it. I left teaching and started a business in 1999, making nothing my first few years- held down 3 jobs until about 2002. Fortunes turned for the better. My son has always been GT, and he had been in the IB program at Lubbock High School for the past 2 years. During that time, he was invited to parties and celebrations from numerous kids in that program, which is for the top academically performing students.

    You know what the common denominator is among all those kids (well, except for my son, of course- I do merely OK)? Filthy rich parents. Seriously, they rent out areas at Texas Tech for graduation parties, have the most expensive houses in Lubbock, drive Mercedes, etc. I mean, all of them. And their kids were the top honors students in that school.
     
  17. FV Santiago

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    We as a society can not be afraid of being smeared as a racist in order to set the record straight on this case. The only people that are still supporting Trayvon Martin are the ones who have not objectively assessed the facts of the case. These people need education, not emotion, in order to understand the true facts, and not the lies that the media put forth. We must fight ignorance with truth.

    The Trayvon Martin supporters use race as a weapon in order to suppress the other side. We all know that when you are accused -- not convicted but accused -- of being a racist, then your career is toast. It's a powerful weapon, the race card. But the facts of the case, as presented objectively in court, not in the media, are as follows:

    1. There were a string of burglaries in this neighborhood, perpetrated by young black males. George Zimmerman worked with victims of these break-ins in order to help console them and improve their home security.
    2. Trayvon Martin was new to the area and was wandering around in a disoriented fashion because he was on drugs. He went to the store to purchase more ingredients for drugs -- as 'lean' is made from cough syrup, skittles and watermelon juice (what he bought, not iced tea)
    3. Zimmerman did not stalk or follow Martin, but rather tried to keep track of where Martin was, acting upon the 9-11 dispatcher's questions.
    4. Martin calls Zimmerman a racial slur and then attacks Zimmerman and beats him, breaking his nose and causing significant injuries to his face and head.
    5. Zimmerman acts in self defense after Martin says "you will die tonight".

    How anyone can be sympathetic towards Trayvon Martin is a mystery to me.
     
  18. DAROckets

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    Could you please give us some examples ? Please don't say something ridiculous like the crusades ..
     
  19. dandorotik

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    Why would that be ridiculous?
     
  20. dandorotik

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    There is a significant gap between your #3 and #4. Also, it makes it kinda difficult to know what was actually said between those 2 when one of them isn't around to give their side of the story. Also, why not shoot Trayvon in the leg? Why not carry pepper spray and use that (you can buy this, you know)? Why even get out of the car in the first place?
     

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