How does a guilty finding work in a civil case if the jury finds both parties equally responsible? The reason I ask is that I have a brother in law who was hit by a commercial vehicle while in a cherry picker putting a sign up. The court found both parties equally at fault and no judgement was rendered.
No one should get hurt, but if these jurors wanted him walk so bad, then they should have no problem standing behind their decision and explaining their reasoning either. I also saw the store owners are planning on closing down shop, just so demonstrators can't have a place to eat or even use the bathroom. In one case, they're even removing all their inventory from the store?! Yeah wonder what that's about?
With all the interest in this trial, and so many people who thought justice was not served, it is not surprising that people are speaking out and protesting the results of the trial. What is notable that with few exceptions that the protests have been largely within the law and not the widespread crime wave some had worried and warned about.
The people who are trying to make a mountain out of molehill are forgetting important elements to this tragedy. George Zimmerman lived in this community so he had a right to walk anywhere anytime he desired, regardless of whether he was observing another person. Trayvon Martin, because the United States is a free country, had the right to walk anywhere anytime he wanted (but not to be peeking in windows IF that were the case). Zimmerman, according to the evidence, did not confront Martin. He was trying to observe what he was doing, which, again, was and is Zimmerman's right. He was not trying to apprehend or interfere. He was waiting for the police to arrive. Martin, on the other hand, had plenty of time to go home. He chose not to do so. Instead, he circled around and allegedly attacked Zimmerman, which forced Zimmerman to use the pistol to protect his life. Had Zimmerman attacked Martin or followed Martin back to Martin's home, the verdict probably would have been different. However, virtually all of the "protesters" -- outside of the immediate family -- have been stirring this pot simply because it stirs the pot of racial divide, which strengthens their political hand and anchors the black community in its place within the Democratic world. Again we see Obama's "divide and conquer" strategy at work. As Obama's former chief of staff once said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
It appears you either didn't listen to, read, or maybe just didn't understand Obama's speech. Because it wasn't divisive in the least. It was an attempt at the opposite. Also, he doesn't need to divide to conquer. So I'm not sure you you've studied the numbers of who already supports him.
What a stupid response. None of the jurors "wanted him to walk so bad". To say different is exactly why they are afraid because people like you act like they had an ulterior motive. They did their job. They reviewed the evidence and rendered a verdict. As others have said, what do the folks in River Oaks have do with any of this? Those protestors shouldn't be disrupting traffic the way they did nor the businesses in River Oaks. You should be asking yourself why the protestors chose River Oaks.
This logic has been beat to death. It is irrelevant on who was breaking the law or not. All that matters is that a extremely angry violent racist white guy gunned down a an innocent 13 year old looking 'goody two shoe' boy, which could have been obamas son, out to get skittles and ice tea. Its an absolutely fact (w/out evidence) that this angry old white dude ONLY went after this innocent black boy because of the color of his skin. This case has nothing to do with stand your ground, self defense, gun rights, legal rights on assault or anything else. The only thing that matters in this case is that TM was racially profiled. Since Z racially profiled with a vengeance, it is 100% of his fault, regardless of the decisions this 13 year old looking boy did. So therefore, Z should be sentence to prison for life...or even executed. If you don't understand this logic, you have no business debating in this thread.
Perhaps they wanted to attract media attention. And the attention outside those who already agree with them?
All we ever see in the media is Martin's photo as a 13-year-old. Few show him as a strapping football player who towered over Zimmerman from a height perspective. There was plenty of evidence to indicate Martin's dislike of "crazy-a$$ crackers." Zimmerman, who is half Jewish and half Hispanic, had a history of mentoring black children and took a black woman to his high school prom. Now that's some kind of racist! Zimmerman also voted, as a Democrat, for Obama. That's another real clue he is racist. Right? Also, Zimmerman told the police dispatcher, after being asked to describe the suspect, said he "looks like he could be black." NBC edited the tape to make him sound racist. Stand Your Ground was never ever part of this trial. Only media pundits referred to this law. Obama wants to make it sound like SYG is an integral part of the case so he can pander to his black audience.
I think you are missing the point. This citizens case is divided by logic/facts vs emotions. Yes, its factual that GZ worked often with the black community. Yes, its factual that GZ voted for Obama. Yes, its factual that Zimmerman is mixed. But NONE of that is important. And unfortunately for TM, a jury used logic and facts to let a vigilante killer free. Naturally, we should protest and hold riots and threaten these jurors and this killer, that if we ever should see them, we will kill them. Again, this is about facts/evidence vs emotions/politics. You're arguing apples and oranges. Its like arguing with your PMSing wife why you are 1 minute late coming home from work. There is no amount of logic that will ever win over emotion.
That still isn't the question I asked ... C'mon it's a simple question . How much physical violence should I have to endure from an attacker before you think I'd be justified in using deadly force ? Also hilarious how a deviated septum becomes merely a bloody nose .
"If you feel that you just got to mug somebody because of your hurt and your pain, go to River Oaks and mug you some good white folks. If you’re angry that our brother is put to death, don’t burn down your own community, give these white folks heck from the womb to the tomb." If the organizer of this protest made those statements would you keep your business open?
Let me guess....That statement came from the former convicted crack dealer turned self-appointed spokesman for the black underclass.
Well, there is that Zimmerman molested a cousin/family friend stuff that wasn't allowed. I hope she decided to press charges on that.
