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Blazers GM and Aldridge camp met to discuss trade scenarios

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Raven

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    The thing is, the Rockets can't afford Dwight, Harden, Parsons, and LMA, not all four, so putting Parsons in the deal is understandable. I don't think the holdup is Parsons, I think the hold up is the bits and pieces, such as picks or other rookie contracts.
     
  2. DrNuegebauer

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    How much do you think Parsons will get paid??

    Something in the range of $7-8m seems like big upgrade?

    Howard 20
    Aldridge 15
    Harden 14
    Parsons 8
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    57m

    Something like 16m to flesh out the roster and avoid lux tax = very doable for a Morey surely?
     
  3. Easy

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    That's true. But the Lakers problem was never Pau-Dwight. It was Kobe-Dwight and D'Antoni-Dwight.
     
  4. sjackson0

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    The rockets can't trade parsons now....one, he has the best contract in the league. Who averages 15ppg and makes less than a million? Two, it would be a PR nightmare trading him right after it was well documented how instrumental he was recruiting Dwight. Do some of you know how bad the rockets would look to the league? Future free agents? Trading a man after he did all he could to land you your prize franchise center? No way they trade parson. We can't send our point guards to Portland either....hello, the have Lillard and draft CJ who both are better than any of our points lol. It has to be a 3 team trade
     
  5. Codman

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    Morey is not trading Parsons. Bet on it, unless it's for a Superstar.

    I think LaMarcus is the best PF in the game, but because there are so many PFs that can score, he isn't always in the discussion. If he wants out and to Houston, they'll accept Omer, some of our rooks, picks, etc...


    Parsons is a main reason why Dwight is here. Parsons is arguably the most underrated player in the league in terms of ability, size, defense WITH size, and most importantly, a contract that doesn't align to what he produces night in night out. You DON'T trade that type of player.

    In my opinion, Chandler is becoming the leader of this team, too. It may not be HIS team, but you can tell from games that he keeps James, Greg Smith, JLin, DMo(Who doesn't like to hear criticism) and Omer in check. He keeps the positivity going on the court and leads by example.

    If you want a more athletic, skillful "Shane Battier," Chandler is just that. How often do Shane-esque players like Parsons come around? Rarely. The closest thing to Shane may be Tucker (PHX), Thabo (OKC), Bradley (BOS) and a former Ron-Ron.

    I don't think Chandler is a throw-away for potential. He's not an asset (I hate this term...Morey started it :( ) type of player, just like Dwight and James because of what they bring to the table.

    Jeremy Lin is just another PG, if we're being honest to stats and gameplay, but a "Morey Asset" based on his reputation and revenue building.

    Omer is another big man that shined with more minutes, but he is not that unique of a skillset. In other words, he could be considered a "Morey Asset."

    In any case, Chandler should be untouchable for his abilities. You can't name another 6'9" player that can play all positions and DEFEND like a boss. Plus, he's owed a big pay day for all of that AND for taking his own time to help bring Dwight to Houston.

    He didn't have to do any of it. It wasn't required in his contract, yet he took a leadership type of action by convincing a guy that he wasn't very close with to come play for the team he loves.

    Even for LaMarcus, you don't give up Chandler. If we're talking LeBron, D-Rose, Durant, fine.

    Some of you would give Chandler away without thinking about how he is a different type of player than 90% of the league.

    He's here to stay, and we're lucky to have him as a glue-guy on a roster of budding superstars, and unfortunately, developing egos that come with the territory of success.
     
  6. Deuce

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    I think Parsons will end up getting a contract that starts at ~ 8M.

     
  7. jlowe362

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    Let him see what he can offer....get her done morey!!!!
     
  8. Phillyrocket

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    I don't understand why people keep saying this. As long as you're willing to go into the luxury tax you can "afford" them. Maybe folks are confused over the Harden situation where it appears he was moved for financial reasons. Look at the Lakers and Nets for examples of being able to afford players.

    If you trade out say Asik and Lin for LMA you'll be right at the cap but with Parson's bird rights you can go over the cap and resign him. No muss no fuss.
     
  9. hendrixfan007

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    Sounds awesome as long as we can afford to keep Parsons, given his youth, potential and salary I'd say he's more of a value the LA. However Asik and picks could be the deal, I don't want to see them trade Lin. Possibly Aaron Brooks, D Mo or T Jones as well
     
  10. jim1961

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    We dont know how much tax and for how many years Les is willing to pay. I am quite sure Les isnt willing to pay what Brooklyn will be ($186M) and probably not what the Lakers had been either.
     
  11. Deuce

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    The killer for the Nets is the "repeater tax." You have to be in LT land for 3 straight seasons which is what they have been doing (same for LA).

    Rockets have not and do not appear to do that this season. So it is more of an issue "3 seasons down the road perhaps starting NEXT season." That gives the Rockets a fair amount of time.

    See this post for reference
     
  12. Phillyrocket

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    For 2-3 years I think he will. We're not going to be the Lakers with Kobe making 30 million or the Nets taking on every overpriced over the hill former star.
     
  13. Jah

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    I see no reason to hold on to Parsons. This guy's value is as high as it's gonna get. We're better off trading him now for LaMarcus Aldrige. A package of Asik, Parsons, DMO and picks is more than enough. We don't need to send a PG as they are loaded in that area. At all cost though, keep T.Jones. An ideal back-up to Aldridge and one Jones can learn from.

    Those advocating to keep Parsons do not understand basketball. Aldridge is an All-Star. He has Playoffs experience, a stretch 4 type and at 6"11 and in his prime, you make that deal and make it fast! Parsons cannot give us what LMA can.....not even close!

    If you have a big 3 of Harden, Howard and Aldridge, you don't have to worry about the flow of the offense if one them was to (knock on wood) suffer a concussion (to keep from jinxing us) and out for a number of games. All 3 of those guys are capable of carrying a team with a far superior consistent rate than Parsons could ever muster.

    That's why it's comical how anyone can value Parsons over Aldridge. Please! Parsons lacks the resume, clout and fortitude. Plus, dude is gay!
     
  14. Merovingian

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    Let's see if LMA hasn't been traded by the next off season, then there is 50% probability that LMA will be a Rockets. The other 50% would be another superstar PF.
     
  15. Jah

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    There is no reasons to hold on to Parsons over an All-Star in LMA. I don't know what some of you Rox fans are smoking but do sober up and realize, we're talking LaMarcus Nurae Aldridge here, folks. Not some pretty-boy, C.Parsons who doesn't make his teammates better.

    And this notion that Parsons helped recruited Dwight Howard is exaggerated. When asked what did Parsons say to convince Howard, Howard couldn't say one way or another what Parsons said that sold him on the Rockets. Howard was just being nice during his press conference rally by mentioning Parsons.

    Howard made the decision to come to Houston and if anybody convinced him more so, it's no other than James Harden himself. Ask yourself, would Howard still have chose the Rockets if Harden wasn't here?? Like I said, be real, Rox fans. Parsons does not have that clout.

    Parsons doesn't make anyone better except himself. He couldn't even help his boyfriend shine, in JLin. Just saying......I, at least, heard he was gay???? Smh.

    This suppose to be our chance to get a Big 3 so why, all of sudden, some Rox fans are against that? Make me wonder if they are L.A. fans disguised as Rox fans to spew a bunch of nonsense that Parsons is better than Aldridge just to ruin it for us to get our Big 3.

    Morey need to get this deal done now or trade deadline. Majority of Rox fans want Aldridge and he's a Texan!
     
  16. khanhdum

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    i agree, 50% we'll get LMA and 50% we won't. I heard the same % with LBJ also :cool:
     
  17. daywalker02

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    according to sources?
     
  18. Merovingian

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    From what source you heard that LBJ %? the same 50%?
     
  19. ROXTXIA

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    Dwight, Harden, and Parsons are fixtures of the team. If you want LMA, keep Parsons out of it. I don't think Morey is gonna flip Dwight's best friend on the team, especially since it wouldn't make us appreciably better.

    I was at that rally a week ago. Trust me. Parsons ain't leaving.

    Now, Asik and Lin? Maybe one of our pf's. Just quit adding Parsons to the mix.
     
  20. Jah

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    The Rockets should go all out for LMA. Parsons is NOT untouchable. He can be replaced. With LMA at the 4, the 3 spot will only need to be a spot-up shooter. Even Rob Covington can fill that and probably prove to be a better asset than Parsons if he can give us defense which the reports say is pretty good about him.

    This notion about Parsons being a glue guy, the Captian, a Leader and a 3rd star (cough, cough) is pure exaggeration. You put Harden up and put Parsons up and ask the rest of the team who would they follow, I bet the whole squad will stand behind Harden including Asik and DMO.

    Even J.Lin would stand behind Harden but since him and Parsons have some intimacy with each others going on, he'd be the only guy siding with Parsons based on intimacy feelings. Just saying man.

    Been a Rox fan since '83 and never seen this level of lovefest for a borderline talent like Parsons who can't create for himself or make others better. Though he's a good spot-up shooter from time to time, I worry if this guy get injured and sink his trade value when we can package him NOW for an All-Star caliber PF in LMA.

    You don't pass up an opportunity like that.....not for Parsons! Smh.

    Asik, Parsons and DMO with a 1st rd pick is a decent package to get our guy in LMA. By the way, LMA is a TEXAN!
     

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