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Prediction: would McHale still running Harden ISO?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CARoxNut, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. dharocks

    dharocks Member

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    FG% only tells half of the story. Many of Harden's isolations lead to FTs or pull up threes. They also lead to drives that collapse the defense and leave shooters open for 3s, which has the same effect as a double team.

    a) Not every isolation leads to a shot attempt

    b) Yao did average 16.1 FGA/G from 2005-2008. He also averaged over 7.5 FTAs/G and was prone to turnovers.

    It was not unusual at all for Yao to get 15+ touches on the low block a night.
     
  2. keldraco

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    Jordan iso is out of a triangle offense... it different
     
  3. recboil

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    also lead to harden being number #2 in the NBA with the most turnovers.
     
  4. flamingdts

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    Or you know, Dwight Howard? Like the guy we acquired in the off-season who is another reliable option on offense?
     
  5. iconoclastic

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    Wow, I didn't know Lin was that exceptional with the ball in his hands. Even more indicative that last season's Rocket offense was a terrible fit for Lin.
     
  6. TheDr34m

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    Please someone embed the video of Jeremy Lin's game winner vs the Raptors when he was with the Knicks. That would be called an ISO for Jeremy Lin.

    Seriously I got sick and tired of LOF's saying McFail, McFail just because they wished there boy Jeremy would be the Harden of this team. He is good point guard no doubt but he is no Harden.

    If you want to see Jeremy Lin iso's pray that he gets traded to the Charlotte Bobcats. Then you can see flashes of Linsanity here and there maybe even a 40 point game. But you will see him very sad because he will never win a championship like that. He can fit well in this system and be an average to slightly above average point guard. I hope he increases his 3pt percentage and he can flourish really well here as long as his shot can be around 37 to 40 % from 3point range. We know he is definitely the best passer on this team and Harden would be second after Jeremy.

    Just stop hating on Harden ISO's this will always happen when you have a superstar on your team.
     
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  7. tminusrex

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    larsv8 and jocar should be banned for mentioning Lin in every thread
     
  8. tomato123

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    It was different. That game was a tie game. If he made that shot, team win. If not, they still have chance in overtime.
    You notice the teammate trying to score before they decided to give the ball to Lin for ISO.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcCcigUMSY

    But what harden did was keep doing ISO. It is too predictable when he stops on the same spot and dribbling.

     
  9. dharocks

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    And yet his TOV% was about the same as Yao's was in the aforementioned period, and significantly lower than Lin's.
     
  10. conquistador#11

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    a lot of stickyness in this thread, got to move the comments more.

    remember, he never called isos.
     
  11. New

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    Those are bait threads. Turning every thread into bashing Lin thread.

    Prediction:nmore will come to defend Lin and someone will then come and say: stop being so sensitive! The daily show at CF!
     
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    Bait post. Not bait thread
     
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    Seriously aside from this post, jocar and larsv, who are discussing Lin iso... I am really tired of seeing " I am tired of LOF".

     
  14. gene18

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    Lin is a top 20 point guard. Harden is the "Face of the Franchise" according to Morey. He gets the ball, he shoots, that's it. We will see how things change with Howard on the court.
     
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    Paul
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  16. trock

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    This.
     
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    Pretty sure we'll start running Howard ISO. Howard has already indicated that he wants to be more involved in the offence, and he hates pick and roll.
     
  18. Marsarinian

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    You're only looking at FG%. However, so many of Harden's drives lead to assists or fouls, and 2 points the from the free throw line is the same as making a shot. You would have to compare the PPP in iso situations between the two players to make your point.

    Also, in late game situations, the isolation play is often a very good play to have in your arsenal because of how effective it is at controlling the clock. Now that Howard on board, I imagine we'll add more in-and-out sets to our usual screen and rolls.
     
  19. jocar

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    Lof are obsessed with crying "Harden Iso!" because it takes touches away from Lin. If the offense was centered around Lin you wouldn't hear a peep about it. Period. Hardly any Houstonians, NBA fans around the country, analysts, article writers, announcers, complain about it or make a big deal like it happens all the time. But you come here to CF and you see 95% Lin fans making it sound like that's all the team ever does. Only basketball newbs (like tminusrex, who said Chris Paul is one of the worse defenders *cough*lol*!) don't know a lick about NBA (as much as they pretend to), or watch it enough to see that every team iso's their star players. "Harden/Mchale iso!" is just as overblown, over-exaggerated, and annoying as the dudes obsessed with saying "Jeremy turnover machine!".
     
  20. tomato123

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    don't think anyone will compliant if Harden's ISO does work.

    the reality is....

     

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