1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Why Morey should aggressively pursue a 3rd star: Because Harden/Howard aren't Lebron or Durant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. ttdestroyer

    ttdestroyer Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    9
    Your not going to find another Lebron or Durant. They are unique. Just as Harden and Howard are unique.
     
  2. megadon

    megadon Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    2
    You had that other trollish thread about trading Lin and Asik before I believe. This horse had been beaten to death. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but Morey has already stated that Dwight is happy with the team as constructed. Until the team proves that the team is not capable of being a contender, maybe your thread might become more relevant. Until then, you sound like just one more troll here.
     
  3. megadon

    megadon Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    2
    1. Howard is 28 years old. He should be in his physical prime.. So your 1st point, WTF?
    2. Dirk was a 1st tier superstar 3 years ago dude. Look at his stats 3 years ago man. And the reason for the Mavericks success was more about the HEat imploding and the Mavericks being an extremel tough team to beat.
     
  4. megadon

    megadon Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think parsons can break this season easily. I don't see Lin starting over Beverley due to McHale. And McHale is supported to the hilt by Morey and Alexander. So the decision to demote Lin was the braintrust of the management of the Rockets.
     
  5. megadon

    megadon Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    2
    You kind of forgot to mention Lin.. hmmmmmm agenda much. I already suspect the hit is out on Lin this year. Jeremy, you are gonna get hoodwinked silly by Kevin McHale
     
  6. Aleron

    Aleron Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    11,685
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    You must be new to the rockets if you think what Morey says publicly constitutes evidence of the truth.
     
  7. jtr

    jtr Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,470
    Likes Received:
    275
    One thing I would like to make perfectly clear - there is only 1 basketball on the court. There is no room on the Rockets for any more players that do not contribute heavily off the ball and on defense. Harden, Howard, Lin and Parsons need their touches. And there is not enough basketball to go round to fulfill those players needs. The Rockets need great role players. Otherwise they will have to marginalize a very good NBA player who needs the rock. Keep that in mind when you recommend roster moves. I feel sure Morey does.
     
  8. Chef_Monteur

    Chef_Monteur Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    Messages:
    863
    Likes Received:
    20
    Parsons and Lin aren't all-stars, and likely will not be next year, either. If you get an opportunity to parlay these guys along with draft picks or any other combination of players not named Howard or Harden to aquire a 3rd all-star, you do it. No questions asked.

    I like Lin, and I like Parsons, but they're not star calibre players. They are average NBA players who can be easily replaced but other players.
     
  9. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,161
    Likes Received:
    3,361
    This would be the correct argument with the wrong superstars. For example, Kobe and Melo together will certainly lessen each player's game. But the Rockets don't have that. Here's what we have.

    Harden - Was once a 6th man with godly efficieny rating. He has shown capable of performing well as a lead dog here in Houston. And as part of a super-lineup, as evidenced by his 66TS% and ungodly Durant-Harden-Westbrook lineup ratings). Harden can play the PnR with bigs and he can shoot the 3 when off the ball. He is perfect for a big 3 because his efficiency increases with lesser usage.

    Howard - Even ignoring his offense, his defense can be the best in the NBA. So lessening his touches only marginally decrease his overall impact. Also someone who can increase his efficiency with less use, because he's not good enough where you can force feed him the ball and he dominate ala Shaq/Dream.

    Obviously there are only 2 stars the Rockets have a chance of getting, Love and Aldridge. Love is a no-brainer perfect fit for this team because of his rebounding and 3pt shooting. Aldridge though would be fine. He can play in the flow of the offense for pick-and-pop, spacing the floor, while taking over the low post duties when Howard is having trouble. But there's no reason why there cannot be synergy among 3 stars, assuming the 3rd star isn't someone like Melo.
     
  10. merrrlo

    merrrlo Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    599
    Likes Received:
    200
    Ehm......
     
  11. zipcrash

    zipcrash Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2013
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    8
    are you familiar with the term "more than one way to skin a cat"?

    yeah it's that. harden and howard combo can work with the right role players. you dont NEED a 3rd star to win.
     
  12. knickstorm

    knickstorm Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,712
    Likes Received:
    74
    Pacers have no stars and came within a game of beating the Heat.......so I guess your logic dictates if Granger was healthy they would've won.

    3rd star theory busted!
     
  13. Chef_Monteur

    Chef_Monteur Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    Messages:
    863
    Likes Received:
    20
    Huh? Pacers have a balanced attack of players who can defend, shoot and provide utility.

    Roy Hibbert is a top 5 NBA center, for one thing. Paul George is capable of playing like Tmac for stretches at a time, only he's a much better defender than Tmac ever was. Then you have George Hill to play spark plug of the whole thing, a guy who is capable of taking over a game by himself. David West, one of the most underrated PF's in basketball and also one of the most reliable and consistent 4's, and an enforcer to boot.

    The Pacers have great players, its just that they go unrecognized because they play in Indiana and ESPN doesn't pay much attention to them throughout the year. Yet, they still won nearly 50 games despite injuries and missing arguably their best player, Granger.

    So, to answer your question...yes if Granger were healthy I think the Pacers would have beaten the Heat. The Spurs would have beaten the Heat in 6 if not for an epic collapse and you could argue that the Spurs have less youth and less overall talent than the Pacers do.
     
  14. Aleron

    Aleron Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    11,685
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    Before Miami came together, you were looking at 3 guys who averaged over 80 ppg between them, of course that sort of production was untenable, now they're averaging about 65 ppg between them.

    Neither Dwight nor LMA are particularly big scorers, it's not like either of them were or ever will be 25 or 30 ppg guys, the Miami guys were all that.
     
  15. dragonz

    dragonz Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,718
    Likes Received:
    56
    Rodman is a MF bad ass game changer, ain't that many game changers in today's NBA!
     
  16. Da_Spark

    Da_Spark Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,515
    Likes Received:
    244
    What this team could use right now is a bruiser. A tough guy that will provide the intangibles ala Vernon Maxwell. Most of the players on our roster right now are essentially good guys. We need at least one player that will provide a tougher attitude.
     
  17. RyanB

    RyanB Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,234
    Likes Received:
    386

    So we need not only 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... stars but???
     
  18. LikeMike

    LikeMike Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    2,205
    Likes Received:
    1,377
    Beverly? I dont think many fans would call him a good guy...
     
  19. Htownballer38

    Htownballer38 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2013
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    1,286

    Lin will start this season LOL not Beverly. Where do yall coming up with such nonsense at??
     
  20. knowidea

    knowidea Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2013
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    1
    The Morey talk that stated D12/Harden want them on their is just GM bull**** talk. Morey is saying that incase they do trade Lin/Asik, and the media starts to blame Dwight for having them traded. By saying what Morey has said, this protects Dwight from any negative media. All Morey will say is, "well, it was just an opportunity we couldn't pass up and had to make, I loved having Lin and Asik, and wish them the best yada yada yada" line.
     

Share This Page