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What must this Rockets team answer to be a contender?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. Aleron

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    Because he is a very weak man defender (who exactly is he known by as a defensive player?), people say Parsons is overrated here, but christ. He gets beaten by basically anybody, but worse than that, once he's beaten, he can't even corral them into a given place, they just get free reign on the basket, which was essentially the problem with Reggie Jackson, Lin at least forces his opponent along a given route giving the help defender a chance.
     
  2. Terry Teagle

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    Relax, dude. Effective Field Goal Percentage = [FGM + 0.5 x 3PM] / FGA

    So Effective FG% depends on the number of 3pt made and attempts.

    If you shoot and make 1 out 3 3pt attempts, EFG% = 50%
    If you shoot and make 1 out 2 2pt attempts, EFG% = 50%
    If you shoot and make 87 out of 257 3pt attempts (33.9%), EFG% = 50.7%
    Incidentally, this is what Lin shot on 3s last year.

    Also, 3pt shots increase the team's ability to get offensive rebounds.

    Make sure you understand statistics and the fundamentals of basketball yourself before you make an ass of yourself.
     
  3. getbloodyred

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    People PB to be a starter because of his defense and style of play, not his shooing. Those are his strong suits and people like his skill set more than Lin's. Who is much more of a ball-dominant PG in a team with an elite ball-diminant SG. Lin's style of play, although I like him more than Bev, is not as complementary as Bev's are. I like Lin and believe he should be starting because with Howard he should excel because he's an excellent passer and finisher and I don't think that he'll be a problem. Lin has proved himself much more than Bev has. But for Lin to truly succeed and meet the expectations of this board, he needs to have the ball more.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You missed the entire point - you get an F for reading comprehension today.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You are crazy if you think PB is a poor defender. The whole point of that series was to force Reggie Jackson - their weakest player make the long jump shots and he did. Great.

    But PB is a great man on man defender, there's no doubt about that. His only issue is his size.
     
  6. Aleron

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    Jackson was scoring by attacking the rim, not by settling for jump shots (he takes them but really only 3's). Same thing MCW did to him in the summer league, sure he might be a good defender if he wasn't so small, but what ifs have no value, and there's really nothing showing that he's a good defender.
     
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    You remember all the plays? You sure PB wasn't rotating on D? I mean, scouting reports on PB say he's a strong man defender, you sayings the scouts are wrong then?
     
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    i see that's why people want bev to be a starter...i actually think lin should start since he's more skilled overall. my point is, if bev was chosen to be the starter and relegated to a spot up 3 pt shooter since harden will be the primary ball handler, then shouldn't bev also be expected to shoot 40% from 3 if that's expected from lin as a starter? i was wondering why there's a discrepancy in 3 pt% expectations to both pg's if either were to start.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Because of PB superior defense and quickness.
     
  10. lucnguye92

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    Scouts are wrong all the time. Case in point: Kwame Brown
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Scouts don't just cover high school and college you know? They also cover NBA players.

    Why is this about PB/Lin - there are only once aspect. If you guys want to argue about PB/Lin, just go into one of the other threads. I am not a LOH, but I am getting tired of LOF.
     
  12. lucnguye92

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    Hey I haven't even brought up the PB and J discussion yet. I'm merely skeptical over the praise that Beverley receives as a lock down defender. He's an active, lengthy, athletic, high-energy defender, and he can full court press like a freaking stallion. I appreciate that. He can shoot the spot up when given the opportunity, but I'm still wondering if he can maintain it over the whole season after scouting reports adjust to him.

    But from what I've seen, he still has ways to go as a lock down man to man defender. Not that it's a knock on him.
     
  13. Terry Teagle

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    Dont blame my comprehension for your lack of coherence.
     
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    Or take PED's
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  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Dude, it's not about eFG%, you have to look at TS%.

    Who cares what the eFG% is, you have to look at FT's as well.
     
  16. Terry Teagle

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    Like I said, lack of coherence. First, you say it's about Effective FG%, and then later, you say it's not about Effective FG%. What is your point?

    My point -- from the very beginning -- is that a 3PT% above 33% is good and that expecting 40% 3PT minimum from Lin is optimistic since even Ray Allen, in many years, didn't reach 40% and he is only the best 3PT shooter in NBA history.

    If your point is that Lin's TS% needs to improve, well his FG% last year (44.1%) is not all that different from Kobe's career FG% (45.4%)

    If your point was that Lin should improve his 3PT% from 34% to 36% and his FT% from 79% to 82%, well then why didn't you say that in the first place brotha because I would've agreed!
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Harden TS% is 60%. In order for Lin to equalize the defense so they can't play off Lin, Lin has to hit 40% from the arc. I'm not pulling this 40% number out of my butt. That's how good Harden is.
     
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    You mean "kink" in his game...? Chink is to Asians as the N world is to black people last I checked.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    yes, I meant kink. Totally did not mean to write that.
     

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