Blazers GM and Aldridge camp met to discuss trade scenarios

well said

 

Didn't read this post but of course you make a great point. We need to be real about Dwight here, the guy can be a diva. Is he going to want to share that space with LMA?

I just see disaster written all over it unless LMA is completely selfless and is willing to turn into a Chris Bosh player. A guy who gave up all his respect as a true star player to become a role player.

LMA is a great player...but I'm not willing to give up what it may take to get him...and I think he could ruin team chemistry.

I'd rather trade Asik for some really good lockdown wingman or like you said a legit stretch 4 that can spot up on the perimeter. Ilyasova would be perfect.

 

There is also the fact that you'll be trading the guy who got Dwight here in the first place.

If Parsons and Dwight really have been talking for a long time...I think it's just to...way too soulless for Morey to then trade Parsons away.

We know Morey loves to trade, but the closer he gets to building a contender...the more stable he has to be. Now is not the time to be jumping at every opportunity that comes his way.

 

If the Blazers offered Aldridge and Meyers Leonard for Asik and Parsons, do you pull that trigger?

 

If LMA has us on his list of destinations, he would probably be well aware of what his role would entail, if it's not what he wants, then that would be dealt with before hand, his contract runs out in 2 years, so are we going to trade for him without knowing this?

In all likelihood, the 2 of them would have their minutes staggered so at least during the regular season, they each spend half their playing time as the sole interior scoring presence any way, with Aldridge being a high post presence when both are on the court.

 

As central as Parsons has been in the whole D12 acquisition, do you guys really think he is on his way out?

 

Rockets should DEFINITELY make the trade for Aldridge, and if that includes trading C.Parsons, SO BE IT! Parsons' production is not exceptional, and can easily be replaced.....Rob Covington can prove to be a better shooter and defensive presence than Parsons. Not saying we should move forth with that thinking but just pointing out how easy Parsons' talent can be replaced....even upgraded.

When you have the chance to get, arguably, the best shooting PF in the game, you do it. I read some of the comments here and most of those comments are not assessing the situation right. Aldridge' presence will complement Howard. This notion about less touches for LMA and Howard and Harden is comical as it is silliness.

A Big 3 of Harden, Howard and Aldridge will understandably be a "shared sacrifice," and these guys are professional enough to make it work. If you look at Miami's Big 3, I noticed they made it work in a unique way. They have Bron as the go-to guy during road games and Wade, during home games. Bosh's role complement both of them.

With the Rockets, it can work in a similar fashion (if McHale have the creativity to figure it out....which I doubt, smh). The Rockets benefits with two 6"11 guys and the spacing is perfect since Aldridge is a stretch 4 type; leaving plenty of room for Howard to operate.

Pau Gasol shows how it could look with Aldridge. Aldridge can play around the perimeter and that's key to how it'd all work. Aldrige with the ball at the elbow or the corner; and can feed Howard with great spacing because Aldridge is a threat as a stretch 4. This opens the floor for Howard anywhere around the paint. That's a nightmare for any team.

And with Harden in pick-n-roll situations, the sky is the limit how much damage our Big 3 can do to opposing defense. The lanes will NOT be clogged with a stretch 4 PF. The Lakers knows it and the Mavs knows it....even the Hawks knows it because those teams have that type of stretch 4 player in Gasol, D.Notwizski and Horford. That's why all three teams went after Howard so hard.

As far as Parsons, I know it would look bad trading him but from a basketball standpoint, he really is the odd man out and this is business, nothing personal. With LMA, the 3 spot will not be a glaring hole when you have a Big 3 of Harden, Howard and Aldridge. We simply need a spot-up shooter who can slash. Covington can do that as well as T.Jones.

And both have better defense and rebounding potential than Parsons. I'd wait til the trade deadline to pull the trigger on the trade but then again, it's better to get LMA now while it's fluid to do so now, than later.

 

Pair somebody else with Asik and it might work. For now, I'd still like to see Asik and Howard to possibly co-exist. It's cheaper to keep players than to acquire them. Parsons is worth the wait. Even if he just turns out a borderline star, he's still perfect for the Rockets.

 

Parson's is too valuable. His contract and what he brings to the table is irreplaceable.

 

For everyone who favors a lockdown wing + stretch 4 over a 3rd star:

The perfect wing, IMHO, is Jared Dudley. Premier D and 3 guy with a reasonable salary. He is already on the clippers and won't be leaving anytime soon.

At the 4, Ilyasova is the name thrown around the most, but acquiring him will likely gut our roster just like LMA will. The closest we can get to the rumor for the Wiz's top 5 pick would be Tjones or DMo and a lottery pick (plus Asik).

Also the dude is 26 and likely hitting his prime just like the 27 yo LMA.

Finally, I really am uncomfortable with a 3pt shooting stretch 4 because people have this misconception that D12 will be able to hit the open man when he gets doubled down low. This is simply not happening. The dude does not have the passing abilities of Dream.

Take a look at their assist numbers: 08-09 D12 dished out 1.9 A/Gm in his Finals run while Dream had 4.3 and 4.5!!! (Topping out at 4.8 in 92-93)

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2007-08 22 ORL NBA C 10 10 42.1 7.2 12.4 .581 0.0 0.0 4.5 8.3 .542 6.0 9.8 15.8 0.9 0.8 3.4 3.2 3.8 18.9
2008-09 23 ORL NBA C 23 23 39.3 7.0 11.7 .601 0.0 0.1 .000 6.3 9.9 .636 4.3 11.0 15.3 1.9 0.9 2.6 2.9 4.4 20.3
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2012-13 27 LAL NBA C 4 4 31.5 6.5 10.5 .619 0.0 0.0 4.0 9.0 .444 2.5 8.3 10.8 1.0 0.5 2.0 4.0 4.3 17.0
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1990-91 28 HOU NBA C 3 3 43.0 8.7 15.0 .578 0.0 0.3 .000 4.7 5.7 .824 4.0 10.7 14.7 2.0 1.3 2.7 2.7 3.7 22.0
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1994-95 32 HOU NBA C 22 22 42.2 13.9 26.2 .531 0.1 0.2 .500 5.0 7.4 .681 2.0 8.3 10.3 4.5 1.2 2.8 3.1 4.3 33.0
1995-96 33 HOU NBA C 8 8 41.1 9.4 18.4 .510 0.0 0.1 .000 3.6 5.0 .725 2.1 7.0 9.1 3.9 1.9 2.1 3.6 3.5 22.4
1996-97 34 HOU NBA C 16 16 39.3 9.2 15.6 .590 0.0 0.2 .000 4.8 6.5 .731 2.9 8.0 10.9 3.4 2.1 2.6 2.9 3.8 23.1
1997-98 35 HOU NBA C 5 5 38.0 7.8 19.8 .394 0.0 0.2 .000 4.8 6.6 .727 1.8 9.0 10.8 2.4 1.0 3.2 2.6 3.6 20.4
1998-99 36 HOU NBA C 4 4 30.8 5.8 13.5 .426 0.0 0.0 1.8 2.0 .875 1.3 6.0 7.3 0.5 1.3 0.8 1.3 4.5 13.3
2001-02 39 TOR NBA C 5 0 17.2 2.4 4.4 .545 0.0 0.0 0.8 1.2 .667 1.8 2.0 3.8 0.4 1.4 0.8 1.2 1.8 5.6
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My point is that I would much rather have a legit offensive post presence with floor stretching abilities like LMA. Ilyasova would be more like Rashard Lewis on that 08-09 team that got killed on the offensive boards in the finals whenever D12 misfired.

LMA has the size to battle the boards, play a dangerous post game and seriously wreak havoc from the midrange.

For the short term, why not give DMo and TJones a legit chance at the 4? Both of these guys have shown flashes of some incredible stuff for ridiculously cheap contracts. Our frontcourt depth is NOT the problem, it is our greatest advantage.

 

Exactly!

 

Portland would hang up the phone laughing at that offer.

 

If we have to give up Parsons, I`d think that would be the deal breaker. His contract is irreplaceable. If we do get Aldridge, we`ll have 3 MAX contracts with vet. min. filling out the roster, a la Miami.

I`m a big fan of LMA. As all of you are, but if it`s going to cost of Parsons, I`m against it. Let`s see how much TJones and DMo have improved before we start trading important pieces.

 

I don't see any movement until the deadline. Morey needs for a couple of guys to improve in order to boost their value.

 

Carl making sense.

Of course the threat of another really good scoring option would make it impossible to cheat off of LMA to help on D12. If LMA really wants Houston then he would know that he is coming into a situation where he is 3rd in the pecking order and he would only be featured in the post while D12 is on the bench.

Your point is exceptionally valid but I still think LMA would be a great fit.

 

Read blazers edge article....parsons would not be traded this is a waste of time arguing it...... 0 chance

Asik has more value than most here understand

Asik, jones, maybe even bev or Canaan + 2014 pick and 2016 pick

We can also give rights to foreign players

But building a big max 3 parsons is just as if not more important

He won't be traded there is no chance.

 

Dang! Parsons goes kamikaze in recruiting Howard, and now he's being
treated like a stepchild by some of you? Look, he's pretty and he's good
what more do you want? He's also pretty good at recruiting! Did I mention
that he's looks good on top of all that?....
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sorry i posted this twice.

 

This is very well said...LMA would be a glamour acquisition, but would also tie us up (although for only this season and next when both he and Jeremy would be coming off the books).

I couldn't agree more with the Ibaka suggestion. He is the perfect fit. Someone who can play great D at the 4 (and even 5 and in some cases the 3) and rebound defensively. Someone who could run the 5 on occasion (foul trouble, rest, etc). And last, he is someone who can hit the midrange "J" as we'll as pop out to the corner three. If we are trading Asik, this would be the ideal trade. However, I wouldn't include parsons in that deal. Parsons only goes if the return is a star...but LMA is not the ideal star IMO.

 

asik, jones and bev (works cheap) plust 2 future picks in 2018 plus a couple of cases from lex's wine cellar plus they get a weekend with maury.