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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. otis thorpe

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    Zimmerman was also caught in lies which illustrates the point . he is more well spoken and sympathetic
     
  2. treeman

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    The Lead Investigator determined that the inconsistencies in Zimmerman's story weren't significant and somewhat normal.

    You also have to throw in Jeantel being deposed with the Martin's being present.
     
  4. otis thorpe

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    What did jeantell lie about that was so devastating. after that i don't care what your answer is you hate the chic we get it
     
  5. Granville

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    The lies she told indicated that she didn't want to be involved. That's why she wrote the letter to Sabrina Fulton and also why she gave the Martin's a fake name in the beginning. Ms Fulton stayed on her until she relented to be a witness and then was involved in her deposition. Jeantel also added additional words later from TM, "get off get off" that were not in her previous depositions. Jeantel even admitted not taking one of the depositions seriously "I put rush on it".

    To the jury, it would appear she would continue to lie to appease the Martins just to get this over with it.

    The more she goes on TV and says the idiotic things she did to Piers Morgan, she is making it harder for the Martins to win a civil court case.
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    That guy was charged with murder from the get go unlike GZ. Why do you think GZ wasn't charge with murder initially?

    In both cases there was no point of someone dying. People don't need to be playing cops especially when someone ends up dead.
     
  7. juicystream

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    White people riot after winning.

    Can't believe this guy didn't go to jail. At least they arrested him and charged him without public pressure.
     
  8. Granville

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    Because this guy wasn't beaten like GZ was......
     
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  10. robbie380

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    Pretty crazy listening to that 911 call when Trayvon was shot.

    How many have listened to it?
     
  11. DAROckets

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    I have . One thing that's not mentioned much is that before zimmermen knew anything was recorded or picked up in the background he told the cop's that he was screaming
     
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    Lol, the Criminal Justice System isn't against whites. But you think it's just fine, black people are treated fairly in this system despite many many many things saying otherwise. Despite even Zimmerman's own attorney's saying otherwise.

    Also, if you want to be racial about it white people riot over sport outcomes...and some of the people PROTESTING are not black.

    I'm tired of this ****.

    Some people riot in L.A and now some people spin this into 'BLACK PEOPLE RIOTING EVERYWHERE!!!!!' not that I'm surprised.

    If one black person robs a house then for some people that means every black person is then capable of robbing a house.
     
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    Trayvon's dad also said that the voice screaming for help was not Trayvon.

    Zimmerman also said he was relieved when the cops said they had a surveillance video of the attack and shooting. The cops didn't have a video but they were just testing him.

    It's crazy how skewed from reality people are viewing this whole ordeal. It seems to be pretty clear to me what happened.
     
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    She also thinks Zimmerman tried to illegally detain Trayvon. If true, that would negate his self-defense claim since he was engaged in an illegal act. It's also consistent with the testimony of witnesses who heard yelling prior to the altercation.

    I still have anyone attempt to present any reasonable, logical argument or cite any historical precedent of an alleged assaulter attacking his victim while on the telephone. She brought this point up in the interview as evidence Trayvon was not looking to start a confrontation. It's impossible to argue with the logic that if you are on the phone and desire to fight someone, you will end the conversation instead of initiating a fight literally while you are on the phone.

    Her story makes a lot of sense. For someone who allegedly has no credibility, she sure does say a lot of things that are anything but self-serving. I think her account makes a lot of sense. I've always held that GZ tried to illegally detain TM and that's what blew this whole thing up. It makes a lot more sense given the other pieces of objective evidence than jumping someone from behind for absolutely no reason.
     
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    You know that Zimmerman's recorded comments to the police were also that he didn't think the voice in the background sounded like him right?
     
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    Please point to her testimony in court where she said GZ was trying to illegally detain TM
     
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    I didn't see that. I'm trying to google it.
     
  20. rdsgonzo13

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    She didn't. It was mentioned on the interview in which she suggested Trayvon threw the first punch. See Basso's link.

    Please explain the logic/plausibility of initiating an assault while on the telephone. Please cite even one historical precedent where you can demonstrate this happened.
     

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