If Boston could win their championship with a non-3 specialist pg who did well in penetration and assist with the ball in his hand more than Pierce, then perhaps it is Harden who has to adjust a bit. He is the star of the team no doubt. But sometimes it is pathetic to see him hold the ball for 20 sec in iso and then only dump over the ball to the shooter in the last second, or miss these 4 qtr long 3s. Many games were lost this way. Perhaps if the Boston formula works, now with a dominant center in Howard (like KG as PF in Boston) we should adjust more to Boston's style of more team play in 4 qtr. Let Jeremy have the ball more in 4 qtr. Harden will still have his shots but doesn't have to have too many hero iso balls. When he was tired in late season plays, his 4 qtr iso balls are hard to watch and to see Houston losing their lead & lost in the 4 qtr is heart broken. Time to change and adjust with Howard on the team.
You are surely sugar-coating on PB to put down Lin. Pb was scoring around 10pt each and a total of 1 assists in game 6 & 7 as the starting pg. Such low assist as starting pg does seem matter to you. Getting scored on badly by the opposing backup pg in both games doesn't matter. Such performance is not sweet. Shooting 33% in 3s in regular season is not sweet. Yet you choose to sugar-coat and sweeten PB as the starting pg to replace Lin and try to jam such idea down the throat of all Rox fans. That is not sugar-coating things to frame the truth?
I keep hearing this low assist number argument and while it may have been true in the small sample size you brought up it wasn't the case for the majority of the season. Per 48 Bev averaged 7.9 assists. Lin averaged 9.0, not a huge difference. And Bev did have a higher AST% then Lin on the season. Not trying to say Bev is better at assisting I just think the difference is smaller than some are making it out to be. Add to the fact that one of the main arguments for wanting Bev over Lin is we have Harden which lessons the need for a "true" pg who distributes. Again it doesn't hurt to have another dangerous playmaker I just don't think the people who want Bev should be dismissed so easily.
LOL @ the op getting Lin's contract wrong than proceeds to bash him right after. Than he goes on to say that the starting pg is a toss up between bev and lin. Beverley with his 4 game sample size as a starting pg got lit up by the likes of reggie jackson and derek fisher
The reason the ball was in Harden's hands so much was because he's clearly the biggest threat on the team and no one else on the team has shown the ability to make plays, consistently. You are right about one thing, now that we have Howard, we don't need to play hero ball as much. Now we have 2 hero's who can play off each other and be dynamite. The rest of the team will play around those two. That's just the way it's going to be.
While I agree with you on the small sample size, I disagree you with the Per 48 number. 17 min against mostly bench players with 2.9 ast vs. 31 min against mostly starters with 6.1 ast is quite a big difference.
Well I don't think Lin is all that "trade-able" at this point. He is an overpaid player who plays a position that has may other choices. The good news is that he is only signed through next year. The new CBA really helped teams avoid long term bad contracts. Otherwise I agree that next year will be the make or break year for Lin.
Oh please, like everyone else here i'm not completely sold on Lin just yet. You, however need to get beverleys schlong out of your mouth
And I agree, you can't just multiply numbers for guys who play low minutes and say that's what they would produce given those actual minutes I just think Bevs ability or inability, as some would argue, to assist is a bit overstated. I also am not too fond of the against mostly starters and against mostly bench players argument. Generally I get that this is somewhat true, but it's not like Bev never played against starters and Lin didn't feast on bench players. Kind of hard to quantify it I think.
The gap between Lin and Beverley isn't as wide as everyone makes it out to be. You guys make it sound like comparing Lin and Beverley is comparable to comparing Tony Parker and Brandon knight. The gap just isn't that big.
So much ignorance and hostility in here, this thread needs to die a horrible death. Congrats, OP, you've polluted our souls.
I think this thread is hilarious. Poster A: Get ready Jeremy. Poster B: WHY DO WE HE NEED TO READY? WHY CAN'T BEV RADEEY? Poster A: Uh... What? Poster C: YEAH! D12 NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO RADY! Poster D: WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT LIN'S MOM? YOU RACIST BASTERD! ^Threads like this explain my signature.
Why don't you explain how instead of discrediting other peoples opinions if they think Lin is better? All you've been doing is saying how Lin doesn't bring it against high quality opponents, which, I admit, is true at times. But when people do bring up how he does do good against them sometimes you either say "it doesn't count" or you bring up a game from the past where he was complete ass. The thing that bothers me is that you can bash him over and over but give Bev all the credit in the world after a 4 game sample size against the Westbrook-less thunder where imo he really wasn't as impressive as you made him out to be.
