Horford showed he could play center and hes played center a lot. Cousins is leaps and bounds better than Asik. Sanders has way more potential than Asik. He can actually catch the ball and finish. I love Asik but dont overrate him he is what he is.
I asked you what their market value would be, some players are over paid and some are underpaid, Asik is actually receiving the most he literally can due to the cba. Using your logic of current contract would lead one to believe Richard Jefferson is a better player than Kyrie Irving, good luck with that logic.
This is not my logic this is yours. I said Jrue was a better player, you start bringing up salary. If you think Asik is a better play than Jrue Holiday then I don't know what to tell you.
I basically agree with your points which is why one is lead to one of two points of view: 1) If LMA = Asik, and LMA is worth a max deal, then Asik is worth a max deal. 2) If LMA = Asik, and Asik is worth 8.3M, then LMA is worth 8.3M. Back when there was a lot of focus on Josh Smith, and most pointed out rightly that he wasnt worth the max, I am finding I feel the same way concerning LMA. One could argue that Smith got about 15M, so LMA is worth 17-18M, but Smith isnt worth the contract he signed. Detroit overpayed. One poster pointed out that Scola put up 16/8 and was worth about 8M per year, so where does that put LMA's worth putting up 18/8 ? OK, he is better defensively than Scola. But a max deal?
My logic was "what would their value be if they were on the market right now", you red herring that with "he earns more now" you dishonest buffoon. If you don't understand the difference between those two, you might want to try getting some sort of semi competent education.
Hahaha taking shots at me through the internet....cute. Jrue is an allstar and better player. You can tell you lost the argument by attacking of what you think my level of education is. You logic is false and will not work.
You're using logical fallacies that show you have a poor education, that you don't even grasp the fallacy is why such idiocy deserves scorn. Jrue Holiday is the pg version of Monta Ellis, a horrendously inefficient chucker.
You pay more for game-changing defense. That's the reason why a player like Josh Smith gets paid the money that he does. Same with Serge Ibaka, Tyson Chandler and others. I love Scola but he doesn't contribute much on that end of the floor. LMA is a quality two-way player that defends the post as well as anybody. His $14M price-tag, considering what brings on both ends, is not as bad as it may seem.
Haaaaahahaa getting mad over the internet huh? Sucks...Now your comparing Jrue Holiday to Monta Ellis nice! You lost bro
I might agree that LMA is worth 14M. That is short of a max deal, so OK. But what I am concerned about with adding anyone with that kind of paycheck is what we may have to give up in terms of money left for others. Dwight 20.5M Harden 13.5M LMA 14M 48M for 3 players where the cap is 58.5M. The Apron is 74M I think. So you have about 15M for 12 players. And with Parsons pay day coming (8M? 10M? More?), how can this work?
Honestly if you can generate that problem which is a good problem. You take that all day. Those are 3 Elite Players at their positions. I understand the concern for adding others but thats a good problem to have. Morey has the talent of finding role players I'm sure he could fill the void
I don't know what you guys are fighting about, but can you at least spell "you're" the right way? Maybe that will beef up your side of the argument... who knows?
It works just fine if you are willing to pay the luxury tax. The Heat are paying $56MM for their big 3 and that number grows to about $63MM when you throw in Mike Miller. The Rockets would be paying a similar amount for Harden/Howard/Parsons/LMA in 2015 if you give Parsons about $10MM and LMA stays around the $15MM mark. You fill out the rest of the roster with vet min guys, rookie scale players, and maybe a mid mle player.
Jopatm---er, basketballholic, I won't undervalue Asik, either, but let's not sit anoint him as the return of Jesus: "I left as de lamb, now I come back de lion." We can see if Dwight and Asik can co-exist on the floor. If not, Asik is too valuable as a backup 5, and he'll leave anyway in two years. He proved himself worthy of the contract and then some, but the thing that other teams will hold over us is that $15,000,000 balloon payment. So obviously Morey has his work cut out for him in the trade department. As far as LMA, he's what we need at the 4, someone who can also play center. Something Asik is NOT is a 4/5. Is LMA overpaid? A bit. Looking at your list: Is Bosh all that better than him? No. Are we gonna get Kevin Love? No. Melo is better but his teams are Melo, Melo, Melo, Melo, and Melo. Dirk is old and Blake is dynamic but one-dimensional. Do you believe we're gonna have Chandler Parsons another two years before he gets paid? If his contract precludes an extension until after the fourth year, okay; I admit BimaThug's capology can go over my head. But if he can get paid a year from now, as opposed to, "Will Morey screw him over an extra year to chase someone we might not get and then risk him leaving if he feels slighted", well.....The guy's contract is almost embarassing now. And he was instrumental in getting Dwight. And, getting paid, good-bye K-Love wiggle room.
JHoliday is better. Jholiday also has 3 full NBA years of experience as well and he also gets paid more something that always has to take into account when running a team.
