pretty sure you didnt read the article lol ...from the blazers beat rider. I guess ill trust his opinion over yours. But thanks
I am convinced Asik was worth more than the no 1. Look who went no 1 ... it was such a crap shoot they drafted a guy they could have got at the 8 spot. Asik is worth more then Jrew Holiday for sure, and he landed Noel (projected no 1 AND pelicans 1st rounder in 2014 basically ) Unlike battier the league understands Asiks value. He is also underpaid at least 4 million. Morey called him a top 5 center. Traditional basketball analysis does not do Asiks impact justice. Morey said that we were top 10 defense in nba with Omer on the court and dead last with him off. How do you value that impact? So I am not worried what we think...morey knows His value...even amick said that one of the GMs chasing howard wanted Asik and that more of the GMs in the league would be more inclined to pursue asik then howard (take that for what it is)
What we need is for TJones or DMo to step up and become a big time asset for the Rockets. If we can offer a very good center and a possible emerging star at PF, then Portland might bite. I'm hoping that Portland gets off to a terrible start and at least one of our young power forwards starts to open some peoples eyes.
yah that was my point... I think that this deal will not happen until the trade deadline because of: Portland needs to gauge its talent and see what kind of team they are now...where their weaknesses are and to confirm they need to push back the time frame they plan to contend. if they start out the first 2 months with one of the best records in the west...no deal gets made. If they are outside playoff contention there is a good chance a deal gets made. It also lets Houston see the same thing...where our biggest needs are...and gives time for us to showcase DMO and T Jones. So I would not expect a trade before February. If one does happen its because the portland GM doesnt want to risk them having a hot start and messing up the trade. That would mean he REALLY REALLY wants asik. Dont see that being the case though.
Come on your being a real homer. Ill take Jrue Holiday over Asik in a heart beat. How is Asik worth more than this year's no.1 pick really dude?
LMA is at least 2X better (if not more) than any PF the rockets have, will have if they improve, or are likely to have in the future. That is all.
Bang, Boom. This. Where does LaMarcus Aldridge rank among big forwards? Love, Bosh, Melo, Blake, Anthony Davis, Zach, David West, Paul Millsap, Dirk, David Lee, Faried. Would you put Lamarcus top 5?? I would put him 5 AT BEST behind Love, Bosh, Melo, Dirk, and Blake. You could move him up to 4 or 5 in front of Dirk and Blake. Dirk is over-the-hill. And Blake has no midrange game as of yet. Personally....I don't think LaMarcus is appreciably better than West and Millsap either. He's a good player. How good? Dunno. As great a midrange shooter as he is (and I watch the games, I like his ridiculously high and quick release as well as anyone) he's not even hitting 50% from midrange. (Look at Lamarcus' contract and what he would cost us in a trade and then look at his shot chart and consider where he is going to be shooting the ball on this team. Then look at Ilyasova's contract and what he would cost us in a trade and then look at his shot chart and consider where he is going to be shooting the ball on this team.) Asik.....where does he rank among centers?? Top 10 easily and arguably Top 5. Which position is harder to get a top 10 guy? Obviously center. Which position is most critical to a team's success???? No question the 5. In my opinion, LaMarcus is worth AT MOST Asik. A straight up Asik for LaMarcus trade is about even. So...with that in mind...like Megastahr said...I don't see the benefit in cross-trading these guys...and on top of that I definitely don't see the benefit in giving up even more assets for LaMarcus than just Asik. I'd rather have........Larry Sanders AND Ersan Ilyasova for Asik...than to have LaMarcus Aldridge for Asik straight up. Why? Because if we are going to move Asik we need to get back a defensively dominant big along with whatever other assets we can pick up. I'm still holding out for Kevin Love or Chris Bosh in a trade for Asik. But even then....if we traded for Love....gotta get another big man defender that can be somewhat dominant in the paint backing up Dwight and Love. Having that paint and rim protection for all 48 minutes of the game is just too valuable. Can't give it up without getting another 5 that can backup Dwight and can somewhat dominate the second units with the paint D and boards in similar fashion to the way Dwight dominates the league with his D and boards.
So what you're telling us is that on the open market right now that Holiday would get a larger contract than Asik are you? Do you know why quality defensive centers get appreciably higher contracts than other positions?
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/M8OSBqnAp28" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Don't sleep on him...Dream could do some work with him
It goes without saying that Miami would be screwed in the event of a major injury to LeBron (the same way we will be if Dwight gets hurt). But what if it's only one game that he has to miss (illness, suspension, etc)? LeBron is the backbone of that Miami team, but they could potentially still win a key game with Wade/Bosh leading the way. I don't know that we could do that without Dwight. I've long been critical of the spread PnR attack without a legitimate inside presence. Adding Aldridge not only boosts this team at full strength, but also gives us the ability to still run our offense in the event something like I mentioned above happens. Also, depending upon what Aldridge costs us, adding him alone to the core of this 12-13 squad still makes us a better team by default. It gives us balance, a player that can still run our bread-and-butter play on offense (PnR) and gives us a solid (and somewhat underrated) post defender. Adding Dwight to the mix only makes us that much scarier.
There's literaly 15-20 other guards I would pick over ahead of Holiday. Curry, Paul, D-will, Westbrook, Parker, Lawson, Lowry, Dragic, Rondo, Rose, Irving, Wall, Teague, Conley, Vasquez, Jennings. All those are better than Jrue Holiday. In a league were guards are a dime a dozen, Holiday just gets lost in a sea of PG's. I have him as a third tier PG. Asik, you can make an argument is a top 5 center. He is a rebounding machine, averaged a double-double. A great defensive presence, top 10 defense when he was on the court.
You definitely lost credibility there lol...None of those guys have ever been an all star and Jrue is a two way player and a legit 6'4. He can shoot pass and play defense. Go watch some philly games from last year hes better than all the guys I bolded
How is he a top 5 center? Dwight M.Gasol Noah Hibbert Horford Cousins Sanders until Asik learns how to catch the ball and score in the post hes not a top 5 center theres no argument
You understand players get paid for winning, at the most rudimentary level, the more wins you generate, the more you get paid right? So if you're saying Jrue is a better player, you are in effect saying he would get paid more. Get paid less for being better doesn't make sense
Horford isn't a center, Cousins doesn't defend and Sanders while he will be better is still raw (still finds himself in eternal foul trouble, he also tends to be considered a power forward, i'm not really sure why but that's what all the coaches seem to think he is)
Ok by your logic Jrue is the better player stiill...he makes 10 mil a year and Asik makes 8.3 mil..so like i said Jrue is the better player
The point is there's really not a huge difference between the bolded players and holiday, they're ranked in the same tier of PG. Hell, an argument can be made why Lin would be better option than Jrue and I don't even like Lin. You said Holiday is better than Asik, yet Jrue Holiday was traded for an unknown/high-risk/injury prone/potential bust in Nerlens Noel. I think you would agree with me that Asik is a far better player than Noel.
