Why research when you've just offered your conspiracy theory up on a plate? You have besmirched the whole Sanford PD with your accusation by implying that they were racists not to file charges against GZ in the first place. Well, history proved them right... yet you fruitlessly go on and on and on... I've looked; there are a few instances of charges here and there. In this climate, you'd be hard-pressed to find a PD of any significant size without accusations slung at them.
Post my conspiracy theory then. Sounds like it should be easy to do but you keep trying to change the subject.
It may come as no surprise, then, that law and order in Sanford in recent years has been plagued by allegations of racial injustice, and a series of public missteps involving its police department. In 2006 two private security guards—one the son of a Sanford police officer, the other a volunteer for the department—killed a black teen with a gunshot in his back. Even though they admitted to never identifying themselves, the guards were released without charges. Then, in 2010, Justin Collison, the son of a Sanford PD lieutenant, sucker-punched a homeless black man outside a bar, and officers on the scene released Collison without charges. He eventually surrendered after video of the incident materialized online; the police chief at the time was ultimately forced into retirement. "Bottom line, we didn't do our job that night," a police department representative told local news station WFTV of the incident. As it would turn out, the Sanford patrol sergeant in charge on the night of Collison's assault, Anthony Raimondo, would also be the first supervisor on the scene of Trayvon Martin's shooting death. "There is no trust, there is no confidence," between African Americans and Sanford authorities, said local NAACP leader Turner Clayton. "It's at an all-time low." Even embattled city manager Norton Bonaparte—who oversees Sanford's police department and is African American—acknowledges this truth. "The trust that may have existed is gone," he said, "so we have to start from ground zero." Or perhaps it was never really there: Reverend Harry Rucker, pastor of Sanford's First Shiloh Missionary Baptist Church, told crowds in the 1990s that integration was a mistake, and that anger was the best way to confront racism. "The worst thing that happened to us when they changed our schools [through desegregation], there went our leaders, there went our teachers," he said then. "We never asked for integration. We asked for equality." Rucker is still at First Shiloh today; he has been one of the organizers of the town's rallies for Trayvon Martin. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/trayvon-martin-sanford-racial-history Consider this no proof whatsoever that race is an issue in Sanford or with the Sanford PD. Certainly not enough proof to ask why the black victim was given a tox screen but the killer wasn't. All of that is pure conspiracy to ask why and find that odd. Great job giddy.
Your conspiracy theory is that the whole of the Sanford PD acts in a racist manner. Not only did Serino deem it not worthy to press charges against Zimmerman after hours and hours of investigation and interview but someone or some others in the department signed off on that and then headed off to the klavern for some beers. How's that?
Really now? Actually I said it was only all the old white guys in Sanford PD that were racist. Its right here in this thread, I've said it several times. Go find it man, I'll wait. You crack me up dude. I really need to start putting key words in quotes like you do. Only all the old "white" guys at the Sanford "police" department. That's fun.
I read this exact same passage and my response: "Is that all?" Two incidents in 7 years? Remember, you've indicted the whole department. Sanford is a city of over 50,000 citizens. I can't quickly locate the number of police officers but the current Chief is a black man-- pretty progressive for a racist-burdened PD. Once again, the black victim was given a tox screen because: 1) he was dead and no behavior could be observed, 2) Zimmerman had reported his behavior as strange "like he was on drugs" Two incidents in 7 years and you use that to demean a whole department?!?
OH really? How about this one from the post right above? Does it not say "the Sanford PD?" No qualifiers with regard to race there...
Heinous crime. I believe the contributing societal factors that could produce such a coldhearted assailant(s) are more discussion worthy than outrage over the lack of outrage because of the race of the victim & perpetrators.
Of my god dude. Where do you get this ignorant idea that what's reported in the news encompasses all events? Seriously? Your defense for the lack of tox screen is supported by actual police comments where?
Yeah, that mocking tone flew over your head. You seem on edge man. You seem to be working over time to make this about white people when I simply said there were several things in the case that were odd and the history of the department and the town makes it even more odd. You've taken that and come to defend white people somehow. Only one suspicious killing and assault against blacks in Sanford by the police the last seven years, no big deal. Haha
So you are indicting the whole PD if not all the city fathers? Look, you are always a smart ass so don't hold it against if I can't set one aside from all the others as particularly meaningful.
Hey you posted it. If you are going to make a blanket charge against a whole department, then you'd better drag a ****load of evidence: 2 events in 7 years is statistically insignificant. My theory. Your theory is conspiracy and/or incompetence. Mine is credible; yours is sensational.
Incompetence of police is hardly sensational. It happens all the time. Police killings and assaults are always significant. How ridiculous.
For you to hang on to the "charge" is sensational. I think I've provided sound reasons as to why it was not done. You'll have to ask them for more but I doubt that whatever they answered would satisfy you. I know it's only a "sample," but no one in the example you provided was a police officer. Two were private security people and one was the kid of a police officer. And Zimmerman was an off-duty neighborhood watchman. How ridiculous?! Stick to some facts, how about?
Didn't the lead investigator asked for Zimmerman to get manslaughter charges but was denied that request because they didn't think they get the conviction? Look was there enough evidence to convict Zimmerman? Since the only other witness that know what happened died, probably not. My view, Zimmerman was going at Trayvon, probably was pretty disparaging with words. Trayvon, like a 17 year old probably responded dumbly and fought him. Zimmerman killed him in self defense at that point. That's what I think likely to have happened.
You do realize that there was so little THC in Martin's system that it is impossible for him to have been affected in any way by it, right?
Yeah, I've read that. I'm not the one calling for a tox report though. Zimmerman called in to report strange pedestrian behavior at night in a neighborhood which had been troubled with break-ins.
Yes, then he chased a teenager down, engaged in a confrontation, and shot an unarmed kid in the chest. I'm somewhat aware of the case.
Why always a smartass? Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass about THC in Martin's system. Never been a part of my consideration of this case. I cited that Zimmerman saw some suspicious behavior by a pedestrian that he interpreted as possibly being due to drugs. That is a fact. It's the first sentence of his call to 911-- with no reference to the suspect's race, I might add. You choice of claiming that Zimmerman "chased a teenager down, engaged in a confrontation" is highly prejudiced. Zimmerman followed Martin's path in order to keep eyes on him for the police due to arrive shortly. Saying that Zimmerman "engaged" in a confrontation makes it sound like Zimmerman initiated it. There is no evidence that that happened and, in fact, the evidence would suggest that Martin initiated the confrontation. Zimmerman knew the police were on their way. Why would he initiate any sort of trouble?
