The question that has never been answered though is how did Zimmerman end up in that position? I fully accept that Martin might've thrown the first punch, and if he survived would likely be charged with assault, but this was a situation where Zimmerman admitted to feeling that Martin was a suspicious and threatening individual and also has given conflicting statements regarding where he was in relation to Martin when the confrontation started. So many people are focusing on the moment when Zimmerman shot Martin without considering what led up to that situation. It is clear that Zimmerman felt that Martin was a threatening individual at that point he shouldn't have put himself into that situation. Under the argument that you are making then someone could provoke a fight and then claim self-defense if they lose and end up shooting the guy. I don't doubt Zimmerman feared for his life at that moment but he should share some responsibility for putting himself in that situation. As I've said throughout this whole situation is that this situation greatly muddies up the interpretation of what is self-defense. It basically says that you can act recklessly and put yourself into a dangerous situation and kill someone and get off with no repercussions.
dumb dumb post please highlight in the Florida law where it doesn't apply to blacks you're just throwing your own personal pity party, it seems gather yourself
Actually he was arrested , handcuffed and taken into the station and questioned , He just wasn't charged
Go read the Stand your Ground thread. Black woman FIRES warning shot over the head of abusive husband. Gets 20 years in prison. Georgia man kills contractor (with a History of threats against customers) who had a knife and threatened the guy's son. The contractor his shot in the head after a warning shot is fired, but the contractor continues toward the man while reaching in his pocket for a knife. Witness backs up claims of gun owner. A year later, the gun owner is charged after pressure is applied by "people" including the victim's wife. Guy gets life.
I never said he profiled on race alone. In theory,profiling is race based just like stereotypes. Most black and latino men are profiled as threats. As are middle eastern people. Its not like we in america profile every white person with crazy hair as a theater shooter. Yet, middle eastern people are profiled as terrorist or people who would blow up large events.
What's the difference if he's arrested and charged or taken in and questioned? He was taken in, questioned, and then let go. If Zimmerman were black no way that happens, no way they let him go, and he's charged. We have no certainty of this, but with how many black folks go to jail for weed compared to white folks, I think it's closer to a certainty that I'm right about that.
People wanna bring up black on black crime and ask why black people don't protest when it happens. They're missing the GD point. If a black guy used self-defense in killing in another black man in identical scenerios, said black man gets murder 1. Period.
go read the REST of that story -- there's more to it, as always. Caltex2 posted it yesterday so you're saying that you cannot point out where blacks are excluded from the law in Florida. Instead you provided me two anecdotal half-stories. Well that's a fail, folks.
What's the result of the scenerio I illustrated? If a black dude killed another black dude in an identical scenerio, what happens?
You said That's completely wrong . He was arrested , handcuffed and taken in and questioned . After questioning him they found no cause to charge him .
I laugh at that being a actual arrest. Hernandez was arrested, George Zimmerman was treated like he was a witness and not a actual killer. Taken in and questioned, at that point the actual 'Arrest' is customary. Yes, and if Zimmerman was black that little trip to the police station would have been different.
Pretty much sums it up. http://www.criminaldefenseblog.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-embarrassment-of-george-zimmerman.html
I am not sure if you have experience with firearms but you should never fire a warning shot. If you draw, be prepared to shoot. If you shoot, shoot to kill. Your criticism of the case should be with mandatory-minimum sentencing which is applied across the board. A white person would be subject to a mand-min as well. It is just going by the schedule.
He was handcuffed and placed in the back of a police car and driven to the station . That's called being arrested .
