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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Lil Pun

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  2. Granville

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    Some more people who need to get over it... THEY LOST. The Prosecution was a clown show.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-prosecutor-prayed-him-testify-135959458--abc-news-topstories.html?vp=1

    Florida prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda had "prayed that [George Zimmerman] would have the courage to take the stand," he told ABC News in an exclusive interview Sunday, adding that Zimmerman's "inconsistent statements" would have made him the prosecution's star witness.

    In the interview with the four Florida prosecutors who fought to convict Zimmerman, lead prosecutor de la Rionda said, "I prayed that he would have the courage to take the stand but, as we all well know, he's got the right not to."

    "Anytime you put in a defendant's statements and a lot of those are self-serving, then usually a defendant will make the decision not to testify because you've got his story out. We felt it was important to get his story out because there were so many lies."

    De la Rionda, who would have cross-examined Zimmerman had he taken the stand, said he would have been interested to see how the former neighborhood watch captain answered several of his questions:

    "Why did you assume because [Trayvon] Martin was wearing a hoodie, he was committing a crime? Why did you assume that because he was
    walking he was doing something improper? Why didn't you identify yourself? Why did you assume he didn't belong in the neighborhood?"

    Zimmerman, 29, was found not guilty in the death of Trayvon Martin late Saturday night. Zimmerman was accused of second-degree murder for shooting Martin, 17, Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford, Fla. He said from the beginning that he had shot Martin in self-defense.

    The four Jacksonville, Fla., prosecutors -- de la Rionda, Angela Corey, John Guy and Rich Mantei -- said they respect the jury's decision but believe Zimmerman got away with murder. They say they have been flooded with emails from people across America thanking them for even trying the case against Zimmerman. The four, who said they thought they were going to win the case until the verdict was read, for the first time in an interview presented their theory of what happened the night Trayvon Martin died.
     
  3. leebigez

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    Dunno where u live in america,but if u don't believe this was not only profiling,but racial profiling,dunno what to say. Look, it happens to us a lot. When I say us,I mean black people. Whether its in the gated communities we live in now or just walking thru dillards. My wife is a health inspector for galveston county. She grew dreads as a natural hairstyle,but if she doesn't have her white jacket on she gets followed. I'm not talking 10 yrs ago,I'm talking in 2013. I never said gz was a racist,but u don't have to be a racist to racial profile.
     
  4. leebigez

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    I've been in many fights,got sucker puched, knocked down,so this is something I can speak on. Trayvon martin wasn't some mma trained fighter,he was a typical street kid who was good with his hands,nothing more. As they talked about this ground and pound,and by the way,zimmerman outweighed martin by over 20lbs. Not just 20lbs,but in age and what people say grown man strength. He had enough movement to get his gun out his back,but didn't have enough movement to put his guard up and block punches or push a 150lbs teenager off him? I'm 42 yrs old and when I graduated I was 6'3 180. I considered myself pretty strong,but I wasn't nearly as strong as the guys who were 5'10 180lbs who were 8 yrs older than me. I mean,c'mon.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    Race was only a factor in this case IN THE MEDIA

    GZ wasn't a racist or profiler
     
  6. sammy

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    He's 29 :eek:


    He looks like he's easily pushing 35.
     
  7. Lil Pun

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    This is something that we have to accept, the media and certain race baiters pushed this racist slant to garner viewership and push their own agendas. None of us know if Zimmerman's a racist. He very well could be but nothing about that night indicates that he is a racist.
     
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    So I guess by happenstance he decided to pursue martin,right? Was it his gut when he said these punks get away with everything? Why would a kid walking with a hoodie and earbuds on be considered a punk when u don't even know him. Oh,but he didn't profile ,right?
     
  9. cheke64

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    Waiting for pouhe's opinion on all this.
     
  10. justtxyank

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    In a crime riddled neighborhood that was having issues with home break ins by teenagers, a teenager walking close to houses on a rainy night, moving between homes and such would draw attention from someone who was now prone to look for it.
     
  11. leebigez

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    I've never said zimmermn was a racist. I personally don't think paula is a racist either and I'm a 42 yr old black man. I do think profiling is race based from my experience in life. My best friend got a benz 190 for his birthday in 88. His dad was a doctor so they had a lil money. We worked at kfc during school yr and after school. He put some hammers (rims) on the benz. His cousin live in pearland during a time when there were only a handful of black people lived in pearlnd. Almost everytime we would go to pearland we would be stopped by the police. My father and his father taught us,keep ur hands on the steering wheel,wait for the officer and announce your intentions ie I'm going in the console for my license or insurance. I never said the cops were racist,maybe there were,maybe not,but to see 2 16yr old black kids in a benz with rims looked suspicious I guess. I could go to pearland with my white homie in his 318 convertible and never get stopped. Are u tellin me that's not racial profiling?
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    why are you ASSUMING it was because of race? There are other factors in this world, but apparently you only see things through a racial lens.

    free your mind
     
  13. Mr.Scarface

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    Again...if Zimmerman was black, Trayvon white. Murder 2...book it. Go read the stand your ground thread. Examples of that Stand Your Ground or Self defense doesn't apply to black people (especially if the assailant is white).
     
  14. giddyup

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    I cannot relate to what you are saying because I have not lived it. I agree that you don't have to be a racist to profile racially. It can be very useful in a practical way. Every APB profiles the pertinent characteristics. I was only seeking to point out that GZ did not blurt out "There's a black kid..."

    He identified the worrisome behavior and only characterized the race when asked directly, yet he continues to be charged with being a racist. Even if he was a racist, he was not on trial for that but for what actually happened.
     
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    I'm white and have also been pulled over by HPD/Harris Co , for no reason . I also kept my hands in clear view , great advice for people of any race.

    He may have been " profiling " but it wasn't based on race alone , it was the series of events that had been taking place in the area . If there had been a series of recent break in's committed by white teens then he would have been suspicious if Martin had been a white guy walking around .
     
  16. giddyup

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    Are you referring to some case... or is this just your opinion?

    What if GZ had also been black?
     
  17. Commodore

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    There is zero evidence of racial profiling, but profiling is not a crime if you are a private citizen. Hypervigilance is not a crime.

    Following someone you think is suspicious along a public thoroughfare is not a crime.

    Even though there is zero evidence GZ approached Martin, approaching someone you think is suspicious and asking "what are you doing around here?" is not a crime.

    Martin was wailing on GZ and got shot. Those facts are all that matter, not what motivated them beforehand (irrational suspicion, keepin it real, etc.)
     
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    As we suspected all along, it's not a racial thing.

    But hey, making a change in our own life is too much work, let's collect welfare and blame the system.

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    Shocking to see the disillusionment and lack of information amongst these mactivists.
     
  19. khanhdum

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    **** race. Stop blaming everything on race, it's so disgusting. Not to be insensitive, but people die every damn day. All races get killed by all races. This case is a shame to our nation, on how it divided our people because of this race issue. How about us fixing our country up as a whole.

    Read my article I posted by a black man and his views on this Trayvon's case: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=8128153&postcount=8588


    BTW if he profiled Trayvon as one of the suspects who's been breaking into homes in that neighborhood is not racist. It's just common sense, since he matched the characteristics.

    We still don't know what happened, and I really don't care either way how the case went as I knew there was no evidence to convict GZ, but some of these posts are just beating a dead horse.

    It's over, lets get over it, and let the family of TM actually grieved for TM instead of seeing him blasted everywhere and won't let him die in peace.

    PS GZ was actually tutoring urban black kids after school so to make him out to be a racist is so stupid.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    Thanks to them Zimmerman was at least Arrested a trialed as he should have been.

    You see, what people seem to forget is that Zimmerman wasn't even arrested after killing another human being. That is completely UNREAL for black people whether Zimmerman is racist or not is irrelevant to the fact that he was going to initially go off without even being arrested and just questioned.

    It's GOOD that people heard of it, I don't have any sympathy for Zimmerman and what he had to go through because of this, he killed a man and there are heavy consequences for that if you do so by accident or purpose.
     

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