1. I see no point in starting this thread. Mods do what they do and we don't have to bug them. 2. The thing about "arabs" was so obviously racist I don't know why you guys are bothering responding to tex's denials. The guy will never admit to it under any circumstances whatsoever, so what's the point? Just go outside or something.
I am so sick of this. There is a huge difference between "gathering" and "standing in line." Get over the Arab reference because this was in the aftermath of 911 where Arabs were the culprits on three different flights-- not to mention a couple of people (James Woods comes to mind) observing what they later considered to have been rehearsals by a group of, again, Arabs on flights. At the time, groups of Arabs had taken over planes and committed acts of terror on our soil, so it would be natural to be leery of a group of Arabs gathering in an seemingly orchestrated fashion on board a plane.... or do their customs have them visiting the powder room in the company of others like ladies at a fine restaurant?! No, I don't think so. To me it was an off-the-cuff remark that was totally understandable in the context described above but you have immortalized it in your mind-- as you do so many things looking for monsters.
i don't think bigtexxx should be suspended at all--- but he clearly needs to think through his positions, and be more open to other opinions. On many issues, he resorts to appeal to the lowest level of reasoning (emotional)---for example, same-sex marriage always reduces him to asking about manpals or something. but yo, half of this s**t is persona, and the other half is old man beliefs, and it's not really even that bad, to be totally frank. He won't devolve into personal insults until quite a while, which is a big plus.
The funniest part of this thread is Honey Bear's jealousy of the attention and his trying to be relevant.
I read everything cometswin posted and didn't see anything reportable. Some of y'all need to get your panties out of a bunch and grow a pair.
No, but saying that the term white guilt is racist and crying about it = panties in a bunch. I think the idea of "white guilt" is idiotic, but to cry about it when entering a forum that's description is "monkeys throwing poo at each other" is just as dumb. People need to get thicker skin, or take advantage of the ignore function.
1. No there isn't a huge difference between gathering and standing in line for the restroom (which is where the group was gathered). There is no crime against going to the restroom with your family or friends on airplane. There's no crime in talking together in front of that restroom on the airplane. That's true even if you and your friends are Arab, and even if Arabs hijacked a plane earlier that same day or a week earlier. You seem to have selective occasions when you defend and excuse people for doing what's legal. 2. It's sad when people would result to stereotyping, and profiling like you described in your post. It was sad at the time, but to defend it ten years later is downright shameful. 3. An overwhelming majority of Arabs aren't terrorists, had nothing to do with terrorism and the fact that Arabs gathering at a restroom on a flight would cause someone to use violence against them is indeed racist. It's definitely not waiting for all the facts to come in as texxx likes to claim is the right thing. What you should be sick of is you excusing that kind of behavior. You do it every time, and you've paint yourself a deeper shade of pathetic each time you do it. It's becoming predictable and boring. Glad I caught your post before leaving.
Disagree, as that would accomplish nothing. Especially in the wake of the recent issue we all know prompted this thread, people like bigtexxx & other zimmerman supporters (as well as the jurors on this case) should simply be sat down and engaged in a productive dialogue with the black community about civil rights injustices & other social issues. It's begins with education, not exclusion.
It is hard to get banned in the D&D. I suggest you use the ignore button, and avoid reading his posts.
A "gathering" implies chat and interaction. Standing in line to go to the restroom usually does not include that kind of behavior: "If you are going #2 can I get in front of you since I'm just going to pee?" I don't know how much you fly but generally you are asked to remain in your seat unless you are going to the restroom. Going to the bathroom in bunches is not a crime but it is highly unusual-- especially for men! Your big mistake is to take bigtexx's remarks too literally. He was just expressing in his occasional macho way that that kind of scene would make him very uncomfortable and he would not remain passive about it. You choose to take it literally. I do not. This is a chat on a message board afterall. Shameful? Give me a break. There were no Barbie Blondes hijacking planes at that time... and there still aren't so no point in being concerned about them acting unusually in an airplane. When you are on an airplane, your fate is no better than anyone else on board with bad intentions, so you can't be casual about it. You won't know it was terrorism until it was too late... I think there is a careless confusing of prejudice and profile. If you were told there was a redheaded guy in your school with a knife, would you bother to be concerned about the bald guys or any of the women? No. Profiling is using pertinent information. And yes, not every red headed guy would be the suspect, I know but you have to work with what you have. You can't wait when you are 30,000 feet in the air. I do it everytime that you over-react. Have a great time in wine country!
This is sooooo wrong. Whether you like him or not, whether you've changed the definition of your pet terms or not, whether you're old or young, this is NOT the American way. Try reading some history and see where shutting down your opponent voice leads you.
Uh, saying white guilt over and over and over again in response to racial issues while extolling the positive effects of slavery, using racial adjectives only for minorities constantly (in the name of accuracy of course), and the constant race baiting is clearly indicative of a man with issues, mainly that he's a bigot. It's called context. One comment here and there, okay. Ten years full of nonsense like this, that's a pattern. And I certainly don't need to explain any of this for anyone that's visited this forum over the years. So when you come here with this kind of ignorant comment you just look well, ignorant and out of your depth.
The burden of proof is squarely on you. If you can't provide SPECIFICS, then you don't get credit for thinking you have a bunch of non-specific points. Then you get all defensive and point to years and years of patterns -- blah blah blah you just can't back up your statement and I'm sure it frustrates the hell out of you that you can't do it. I'm sorry, but I'm no racist, despite your hopes and dreams of such. If you can't provide specifics, then it's best you clam up, son.
do we "ban" such people from everyday conversations in real life? why are you trying to play social police, OP? get a grip
