There are no raging irrational black people. There are people worried that their kids can be profiled as criminals and ultimately killed because of that. If you don't understand why a black person wouldn't be upset at any of this then there isn't much to say to that.
Didn't say there was just that double jeopardy doesn't apply it which it doesn't given the charge being reviewed. Yes because blacks are the only ones raging at the moment. Sheesh! Thanks!
What they tell their kids is that you don't assault people for following you. Use your phone to call the Police. Do things to make the situation better. Martin had 4 minutes to get in the house when he saw the "crazy ass cracker". He could have called the police went inside and waited for the cops to arrive. If Zimmerman hadn't shot Martin, Trayvon would have been the one in court either for assault or murder.
I disagree. The Florida court has no jurisdiction to try him for a Federal crime and the federal government has very limited jurisdiction to hear state law charges.
If you choose to understand the case instead of following the random tweets, you'd know that he was not profiled for the color of his skin. He also was not killed because the color of his skin. If you fail to understand this, then there isn't much more to say.
Probably why Wade and LeBron tweeted about this, they have kids and currently live in Florida, this could of happened to them
Let's play a hypothetical game, and say you were walking down the street, unarmed in your own neighborhood, and an armed black man started following you. Let's say you confronted the armed man that was following you and a physical altercation happened. Let's then say that this black man who was following you then pulled out his gun and shot you in "self defense". Would you say your injury/death would be your own fault in this hypothetical situation, because you reacted incorrectly? Would you say that the armed black man who followed you was not to blame? I only make a point of using a "black man" for this example just to flip the script, and because you were already discussing race in your post. I think the basics of this scenario are equally appalling no matter the race of the individuals involved.
That's not what happened. 1) GZ followed from a distance, with no intention of confronting Martin. Martin was the instigator. 2) He didn't pull out his gun and shoot TM. He was getting beaten and used the weapon to stop the beating.
I'll play your hypothetical game. Lets make a couple minor notes. first, I wouldn't know if this black man following me was armed. Second, if I was being follow, I would immediately seek sanctuary. In this particular case, my house would have been a dozen doors down. I could have been home in less than 30 seconds. Or call the cops. Lastly, if he did indeed step between me and my path to my house, I would not hit him. If this "crazy black dude" did any of that and killed me, then he would be guilty of murder. But that isn't how it went down in the TM/GZ case. GZ could have stayed in his vehicle just as much as TM could have went straight home (he had 4 minutes to get home, not 30 seconds). GZ could have not opted to carry that day just as much as TM could have opted not to hit GZ. All of those scenarios would likely have them both alive, but both of them made the bad decisions that lead to TM's death. There is only one who violated the law, and that was TM when he assaulted GZ.
A guy on facebook summed this up: "A hispanic man shoots a black man, the hispanic man is acquitted by women, but it's still the white man's fault." lol
Ok, assuming all of what you and SpaceGhost said is true: if you were walking down the street, unarmed, and someone started following you, and you confronted them and then got into a physical altercation, and the end result was this person shooting you, you are both saying it would be your own fault? Am I understanding you both correctly?
We don't know that. According to Zimmerman that's the case. According to Trayvon though who knows the story? I find it odd that people will just blindly put 100 percent into what a killer says though, I guess it is what it is. All we got to hear was Zimmerman's side of the story, and if you want to believe everything Zimmerman said then fine. I don't, there are two sides to every story and we've just heard one. I do believe Zimmerman was scared and reacted, but that still doesn't excuse him of using his gun. Even if Trayvon instigated a fist fight, that doesn't mean he deserved to die. Any ways the truth of the matter is none of this happens if Zimmerman doesn't profile Trayvon as a criminal. You're right. I've not read many tweets about but the only information I have about the case is random tweets. I'm just a raging irrational black person that knows nothing about the case. So if he wasn't profiled by the color of his skin or his appearance...then why did Zimmerman feel he was a threat to the community and why did Zimmerman feel the need to stalk the kid? Ultimately he was profiled and assumed to be a criminal. That's a fact of the case, Zimmerman thought he was a criminal. Why? Neither of us are in Zimmerman's head but good job convincing black people of that assumption it had NOTHING to do with race because you are telling them to believe the word of a killer who assumed the guy to be a criminal for his own stupid reasons no matter what they may be. So in the end you believe Zimmerman's account of the events, he's found not guilty because the prosecution couldn't prove their story and the proof is on them. It is what it is but I believe if this was a white kid walking through the neighborhood in the same attire and doing the same exact thing Trayvon was he would have never been accused of being a criminal in the first place.
Zimmerman profiling Trayvon as a criminal isn't the issue so much as the fact he got out of the car and followed him against the wishes of the dispatcher. If he would have done that, none of this would have been an issue and Trayvon would still be alive whether or not TM instigated the fight or not.
Yes true. It's the fact that Zimmerman acted on his assumptions by continuing to follow the man. Had he just made his call and went his way nothing happens. Trayvon happily eventually gets home and nothing happens. But still the very base of this is that he thought him to be a criminal in the first place when Trayvon was doing nothing wrong. Any ways I'm not arguing whether Zimmerman should have been found guilty. Obviously there wasn't enough evidence to support the prosecutions claim and if Trayvon DID assault Zimmerman, banged his head on the concrete as Zimmer claims then according to Florida law he has a right to use a gun. What I am arguing though is that black people shouldn't feel angry or upset by any of this...and that some people, the guy I quoted earlier in the thread(not space ghost, someone else)...actually believe there shouldn't have been a case at all. But you are (not you cal) telling black people to believe the word of Zimmerman 100 percent, just because him and his defense say it wasn't about race at all that we should all just be naive and believe that...of course that's what they are going to say.
You're being intentionally vague and dismissing the most important part of this case. If I started the physical altercation (ie. I punched him first), then yes, it would be my fault. If he started the physical confrontation, then he would be legally liable for something.
We don't know what happened. That's all we know. I wish people would quit speaking like we have hard evidence of any actions that took place that night.
