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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Beavis Stiffler

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    If they use the same jury, Jodi Arias is not guilty.

    You can say the same thing about John Holmes, the Steubenville football players, and the Jena Six.
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    1) the prosecution agreed to this jury

    2) just b/c they are white and a black hispanic (lol @ the level of specificity required these days...) doesn't mean their race is the #1 factor in determining their view on the case. Very shallow thinking to believe that.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    If they could have somehow shown that GZ started the fight, that he landed a few punches, anything that would have shown GZ as having gotten into a fight as an equal participant and not just someone trailing TM, he would have gotten manslaughter.

    Without the evidence though, the man walks. That is our system.
     
  4. B-Bob

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    I agree with that statement. The verdict was not rendered on any part of that statement but rather detailed jury instructions meshed with human beings trying to interpret a non-ideal set of evidence.

    So I think your statement there would still be true with a totally different verdict and outcome.
     
  5. FV Santiago

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    What is the real issue with the events that caused the Travyon Martin tragedy? Was the real issue Zimmerman getting out of his car? Was the real issue Zimmerman's perception of a life-endangering threat? Was the real issue Trayvon not being recognized walking around in a new community? NO. The real issue that led to this tragedy is the absolute corruption in culture that is happening in black America -- specifically young black America. This culture of rebellion against the law, of hatred, of drugs, of violence, of crime. Why do you think whites and hispanics are afraid of blacks? Do you really think it's a coincidence that there is a fear of black people? You are fooling yourself if you do, and I would point out that this is a global phenomenon, not a problem restricted to the Southern portion of the United States. The fear stems from the shootings, the burglaries, and the image of thuggery that is pushed on us by tv, movies, and music and then finds its way into pictures of 17 year old boys smoking drugs with guns and their middle fingers in the air. Why is black America poisoning their lives with this horrible culture? It's eating away at them and burying their hopes of success in life. When will it change? How does it change? These are the questions that must be answered for racism to disappear in this country. It's immaturity to think that it will go away with only one side changing their behavior. George Zimmerman considered Trayvon to be suspicious because of recent burglaries done by young black males in that community. Zimmerman thought he was protecting the community by reporting Trayvon Martin. It is this culture and history of crime and violence that led Zimmerman to have this perception and ultimately caused the sequence of events.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    I completely agree. To me, it appears GZ did not want a fight at all. To some extent, I do think Martin becoming aware of the gun is what led GZ to shooting him, not so much the punches.
    If GZ did manage to get a few punches in, I would be inclined for a manslaughter charge.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    Successful black guy:

    "I'm gonna cut George Zimmerman..."

    [​IMG]
     
  8. tallanvor

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    Every legal expert I have heard has claimed the prosecution had no case and this should not of gone to trial. But of course, in your brain, it must be some love of guns or hatred of blacks the jury had. :rolleyes:
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    reddit on fire today

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  10. Patience

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    Whatever the legal technicalities under Florida's bizarre laws, posting images or memes that portray Zimmerman as some sort of hero in this case is extremely troubling.
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    to be clear, there are no winners here.

    I was sharing some of the reddit reaction
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    What bizarre Florida law are you referring to? The only three laws of any significant importance in this case are 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, and self defense, none of which are unique to Florida, nor especially bizarre.
     
  13. CometsWin

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    Oh my god your hypocrisy. It's just disgusting. Oh man... what a joke.
     
  14. Caltex2

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    While this is to some degree true, the irrational fear of blacks has been a fact long before the glorification of thuggery through hip hop culture. Who can forget how in the old days if there was a rumor of black man hassling a white woman or raping them (again just to hear a rumor), then entire neighborhoods would be destroyed by white mobs and lynchings would come into effect.

    So while I agree with you, this type of irrational fear is hardly anything new.

    As for why black culture is poisoning it's youth, it's about what is promoted. Back in the 80's, the rich white men who owned the record companies not only wanted to portray blacks in rap in a way that would sell but they also sought to make being of a negative mindset a way of life in black culture, which is why they promoted NWA so much (possibly to counteract Public Enemy and their powerful messages such as "Fight the Power)." Ever since NWA, a Catch-22 has become the norm: thug violence and gang culture (and eventually materialism) is what is promoted for black youth and to a lesser extent society in general and in turn many blacks want to hear rap and live a lifestyle based on the rap and culture that is promoted.

    There are plenty of rappers and singers that want to actually say something positive and not idiotic and negative but their hands are tied by the record companies. Remember how thoughtful Kanye West was early on? He said on his second album "certain powers-that-be won't let me get my ideas out" on the song "Gone."

    Now we don't have to go for that fake non-sense but the problem is that the youth naturally is very impressionable and wants to live the culture they're exposed to, no matter how unrealistic and negative it may be hence why this Catch-22 continues to feed on new generations.
     
  15. Patience

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    I was referring to the definition of "self-defense" under "stand your ground".
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    no clue what you're talking about, but whatevs
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    Nope. This is a really silly post.

    This isn't a excuse to profile and assume Trayvon is a criminal. So basically whites and hispanics commit no crimes? Whatever crimes that black people commit should be attributed to the entire race?

    Also Hip-hop is a culture in of itself (which is what I believe you are talking about), it's not black culture.
     
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    You're an idiot
     
  19. LosPollosHermanos

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    this piece of **** should be in jail but I have to admit I am laughing at these and feel terrible for doing so
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Gloating here...with images of you impregnating your opponents in debate, shows how little class you have, and that you have the maturity of a 12 year old. You cry about insults then reduce the board to the most base and crass level.

    It's so sad. What's even more sad is you don't realize how you are humiliating yourself to anyone who might have the capability of having a shred of respect for you.
     

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