Injuries suggested that he was losing the fight and witnesses that DIDNT see who threw the FIRST punch. How do we know that GZ didnt have his hand on his waistband while approaching TM? We dont, but said we did then I'm in fear of my life at the point and will fight back.
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No matter what you say, Trayvon Martin is dead as a result of a neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, and you (not actually you, but you in the general sense) aren't going to convince anybody but gun-toting, trigger happy, white conservatives, that THIS HAD TO HAPPEN. Gun-totters who feel every moment of every day that their rights are being shrunk by the liberal left.
Sorry, but when I was trained as "community WATCH" we were trained to NOT follow nor confront people we thought suspicious. We were also trained to NOT carry a weapon. We were trained to call the police (the people trained and responsible for pursuing, confronting and apprehending suspects of crimes). That's why the dispatcher told Zimmerman he didn't need to follow Martin. This was also true in Sanford. Zimmerman was a wannabe cop with pocketful of courage. He could have called the cops and stayed in his car. He didn't, unfortunately.
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Did you even listen to the 911 tapes or watch any of the trial? Only 1 scream??? You are making an ass of youself!
Doesn't the law say that if someone has a legitimate reason to feel his personal safety is physically threatened, then he may attack in self-defense. So then the question is whether Zimmerman was merely following/questioning, or doing something more threatening (e.g. pointing his gun at him as he's following).
If you attack someone else, then you better be damn sure he doesn't have a gun on him. That's why it is always best to just flee and avoid confrontations. Trying to keep it too real and you end up running into someone that has a gun,and if you initiated the physical confrontation then you don't have anyone to blame but yourself.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson 'Unlike Florida today, only if threatened by another Gun did "Wild West" codes of conduct allow you to shoot another person.'
The only sense one can gain from the verdict is a loophole in the system or a lack of common sense by the jury. It's not being "intellectually lazy" if you disagree with the case and firmly believe that TM was profiled for being black and "up to no good." If you follow the case, read the evidence, and disagree with a faulty verdict, you aren't lazy, as LittleManSyndrome_Texxx tries to imply. Either way, GZ is lucky to not be in jail for manslaughter. Yet, his brother is all over the media glorifying his brother's actions. Hooray for being found not guilty of killing a teenager. Good for you GZ. I hope you're proud of taking another one of those "A**holes" you spoke of off of your streets. Next time, let the qualified officers investigate who the next black kid in your neighborhood really is. That would be nice, for a change. And I'm not the only one that believes this case is related to racial profiling. I am not on the fringe in that respect. Even the evidence suggests that the assumptions were largely based on race. Just as an FYI, I come from a black father and a white mother, so it's not like I have an agenda when I follow this case. We live in a sickening world. Those that defend GZ without really recognizing that a teenager died are part of the problem. You can believe that GZ acted in self-defense, but this thread shows how there are so many without ANY remorse for the VICTIM. Someone died, yet GZ defenders don't acknowledge that. They see GZ as a hero for instigating something that he had no business being part of in the first place. It's like a real life version of Paul Blart:Mall Cop. Trayvon's legacy won't go to waste though. This is another unfortunate wakeup call that profiling and a great divide between moral and immoral behavior still exists in our great America. RIP Trayvon.
I believe you are referring to "a reasonable fear of death or grave bodily harm." I don't think there is legal prescedent that backs up the hypothetical scenario that you are suggesting (following) but I'm not an expert so please post if there is. The pointing the gun scenario would qualify but that is complete conjecture on your part as it relates to this case.
Our nation has a history of this stuff. One of the most brutal murderers to date (Emmet Till) was free and walking about and later even admitted to murdering him. GZ might have been better off in jail, because he is going to see a lot of vigilante justice come his way...
You do know that by these things that are important and don't know provide reasonable doubt that helps the defense.
My point is simply that without knowing what were the circumstances that led an unarmed kid to attack an armed man who was allegedly following him, I can't assume the kid was an aggressor who had it (being shot at) coming. Note that I did not say Martin acted out of self-defense, just that he might have for all we know.
agreed, "qualified officers" hardly ever investigate random black people walking down a street and certainly never shoot them. To death. And then walk free. Amirite?
LOL @ Jury The women who sat through the nearly month-long trial ranged in age from womenin their early 30s to women in their 60s. Four of the women either have experience with guns or relatives who are gun owners. Two of them share a passion for rescuing animals. Five of them are white and the sixth is a minority, believed to be Hispanic. Five of them were mothers.
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