Media bias and lazy thinking: What America should learn

I hope so too. Most of what you say here is right, although I'd have been okay if Zimmerman had gotten some discipline, as he basically instigated the situation.

 

Agreed. People who jump on things like a fake IRS scandal or a fake Benghazi scandal without waiting for all the facts to come out should think about this.

 

Both guys contributed to the situation, and unfortunately Martin faced the ultimate consequence.

I will say that in terms of the faulty thinking which we've come to agree occurred (Zimmerman's wannabe-vigilante profiling/stalking; Martin's temper and opposition to being followed), I'm much more inclined to sympathize with Martin.

I'm not black, but I am a minority male, and I can't go for an evening jog without a cop driving slowly alongside me. Make that an neighborhood watchman, and that only compounds the annoyance. Would I attack him if he approached me? Probably not, but I wouldn't just keep jogging along as if he's not there.

 

I personally think it's very lazy thinking to throw this topic out here, and constrict it to one topic.

This is especially the case because thread originator has, in my opinion, often opined based on skimmed podcasts, articles, or headlines while having not read any of the source material, for example, FOMC minutes, data sets, actual Supreme Court opinions, empirical research and etc.

but yes, he is right that in general, people don't take the effort to think and contribute properly, which is a deep deep problem. I only wish this sort of thinking were applied across the board, and not to score even more gloating in a thread where "I TOLD YOU SO" glee was going into very weird deer-f**king territory.

 

Yes, I also agree that people shouldn't jump on the media hype when they put out a photo of a kid flipping off the camera that they claim is Trayvon but isn't. What a shame that people bought into the media hype to claim that TM was a criminal since he's never been arrested, never been convicted of anything.

In the U.S. you're innocent until proven guilty. Too bad people bought into the media hype about that stuff. They did it with the IRS scandal big time as well.

Just think of all the people who thought there would be looting and mass riots because of a not guilty verdict. The media hype certainly fooled a lot of people.

 

Agreed. People who tell others not to make assumptions about Zimmerman shouldn't make assumptions about what Martin may or may not have been doing with his Skittles. The hypocrisy is laughable.

 

Regardless of what you think about Trayvon Martin, the character issues you cite about him doesn't justify the outcome he received.

Only a gun-toting, conservative republican like yourself would believe it matters who Trayvon was.

Also, George Zimmerman's acquittal does not prove he is an innocent victim of Trayvon Martin's dastardly plan to demonize him.

The truth is that George Zimmerman and most other gun-toting idiots who think that their life is in danger if they can't tote around a 9mm at all times, need to have their guns pried out of their cold dead hands, period.

 

For once, after reading one of your posts, I didn't have to ask myself, ”What?”

Solid take.

 

Why keep taking jabs at Treyvon?

 

I'm sorry I cannot take a broad theme you shoot out there, and tailor it to one instance of your thinking, as you want people in this thread to do.

I believe that is lazy thinking---for if you were to condemn people who think too narrowly based on headlines, I could equally condemn you for trying to restrict your broad conclusions into one narrow symptom of the problem.

you'll have to excuse me---I think that is very lazy thinking. And in keeping with the premise of this thread, I'd very much like to condemn it.

If it makes you feel better, I honestly want you to become a better, more thoughtful person---I'm not going to spite you with deer gifs. If you honestly believe this, I encourage you to spend more time thinking and reflecting about substantive issues.

 

NS that would require looking past the 30 second "sound byte".

 

You keep talking about facts...but keep saying that TM was probably making some sort of drug with his tea and candy. Those aren't facts...just taking jabs at the dead kid.

Just let him rest in peace man. We know how you feel about the young man and this whole situation. What's the purpose for your gloating over the death of another person?

Would you have such a warm victorious feeling if that were your son or family member?

 

tex doesn't like having to hold logically consistent views. Noted.

 

it's not my fault that you started a topic on lazy thinking and media bias in general, then demonstrated your laziness by restricting it to one topic. I don't exactly see how taking your misplaced rant at the "Twitter" generation (which, in data analysis, and big data applications, is probably thinking of issues on a deeper level than you could ever fathom) and applying it to one example is thinking deep about anything.

If you want to get snippy, the only unique differentiation you brought to this topic was your call towards "thinking deeper", otherwise you should have just kept embarrassing yourself (my opinion) with deer gifs in that 500 page or so thread.

I'd point out that discussion of lazy thinking is the point of this thread because you made it so, and put it in the title. If you want to go all forum nazi, kindly keep yourself in the TM thread if your insights are only about that case. TIA.