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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Well I think it's hard to have a media conspiracy on race when the police who actually met him called him white.

    I do think it's funny that Zimmerman, half white and half Hispanic I guess, is hispanic to some of you of conservative persuasion but Obama, half white and half black, isn't black.

    Maybe bigtexxx explain that one for us. Go ahead buddy.
     
  2. Lil Pun

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    Thanks for posting a reasonable response.
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    oh he spared the ninevites

    he also commanded people to kill all the Canaanites.

    guess it's 50/50. Maybe they have sky due process of law up there, though to my understanding, I thought a lot of people were supposed to burn in hell for a bunch of pretty mundane things---touching pig skin for example, and adultery---so I'm assuming killing someone is pretty high up there. but hey, people might find spiritual loopholes to justify a set of beliefs on certain issues that I personally find very dissonant. it's how it works on most issues, I suppose.
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    The justice system isn't broken. You are blowing ONE case out of many out of proportion. Is the system perfect? No. Its not, it never will be. There will be cases like this, many of which go unnoticed, but this one did because everyone wanted to turn this into a race war.

    There are also tons, a majority of all cases, where the right thing happens. The victim is avenged and the guilty is convicted. But yeah. Let's base our opinions on the justice system based on a single case, blown way out of proportion.

    Does Zimmerman deserve justice? Sure, I still think he's guilty. Should it come from the hands of a fellow citizen? No. There are very few times where I think vigilantism is justified and it isn't here.
     
  5. Lil Pun

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    Thanks for helping spread his views.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I don't think it would have made a difference. The evidence just wasn't there.
     
  7. the shark

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    I'm not going to get into whether or not Zimmerman was innocent or guilty.

    What I will say, you have NO clue who Jesus is and what he's all about. Even if GZ is guilty of this, if he believes in Jesus, there is NO sin that will keep him separated from him and ultimately joining him in heaven when he dies.

    Do you know who Moses was? Did you know that he was a murderer?

    There is NO sin that Jesus won't forgive. That is if you accept him.
     
  8. CometsWin

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    Right, so I can follow some lady with a loaded weapon in the dark and if she confronts me or tries to slap me and I'm in fear for what she's reaching for in her purse then I can shoot her. She told me she had a gun in her purse and was reaching for it so I feared for my life and shot her. Sounds legal to me. That's exactly the country I want to live in.
     
  9. BE4RD

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    I suppose it doesn't fit the narrative of the angry rioting negro, but whatever.

    Florida mom gets 20 years for firing warning shots

    Pretty much how most of the country feels about Florida right now:

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Northside Storm

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    always work within the legal system. Zimmerman didn't want to, and therein lies this whole problem. Two wrongs do not make a right.

    There has to be a law on vigilantes pursuing teenagers through the streets, I think this case has made that abundantly clear. This is in the hope that everybody can agree this is a balanced and rational way to save lives.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Except as you note Zimmerman made a very bad decision to follow Martin in the first place. I've said all along I didn't think Zimmerman intended to kill Martin but he put himself in the situation. The problem with the Stand Your Ground law is that it legally gives cover to put yourself into a bad situation where you have to defend yourself. Any good self-defense instructor will tell you the first rule of self-defense is not to put yourself in a situation where you have to defend yourself.
     
  12. CometsWin

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    Oh no it's definitely broken and that's really irrelevant to the result in this case. It's incredibly broken.
     
  13. RedRedemption

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    I think that stand your ground law in Florida definitely needs a lot of tweaking. Maybe it needs to be abolished, who knows?
     
  14. Caltex2

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    You mean trying to uplift the spirits of people of any culture or creed but most prominently the black community (because that's who I'm around and needs the most help) and not rushing to judgement on someone based on any number of things (race, religion, gender, economic class, etc...)?

    I grew up around all races and I see good in bad all across the spectrum. And while there are a number of a-holes trying to start mess with blacks for no reason, I've also seen all my life blacks acting as if they now have a card to treat whites like s--- because of past wrongs and in many cases stuff they never experienced and happened before they were born.

    I, again, have duly noted the history of bigotry against blacks in this country in every post tonight but the reaction of black people all along on this case from day 1 has been over the top EVEN IF Zimmerman did in fact maliciously intend to harm Martin without just cause (e.g. self defense).
     
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    When did I ever say that this ONE case shows that the system is broken. This system has been nothing but a farce since the day the first african "immigrated" to its shores. You think this crap is new? Do you know how many stories like this we have in our families? Do you know why our elders weep when they see this?
     
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  16. amaru

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    :rolleyes: I really hate Fignewtons....
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    The evidence is there considering that Zimmerman was the one who followed Martin and under prior FL precedent, if I recall correctly it was the Blair case, even when assaulted by another there was a conviction for manslaughter. The prosecution focused though on murder which implies intent on the part of Zimmerman and because of that there case was weak. If they had focused on that Zimmerman acted recklessly and negligently in following someone he considered suspicious and dangerous that is a different matter.

    Remember manslaughter isn't the same as murder.
     
  18. Lil Pun

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    I don't. I mean, it was justice.
     
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    You asked and got an answer... I know you have an agenda, but you aren't even trying to hide it at the same time.

    You don't have to accept what I said to you, but im not sure where you're going with this besides throwing all kinds of things in a pot like goulache to stir things up. Come on man
     
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    seems like they should have gone for manslaughter the whole time.

    bigtexxx making the news of the verdict about HIM.

    telling.
     

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